Originally Posted by
Persain
one last thing i'll add... i didnt mean to say all defnsive actions are griefing only that if u want to grief someone which was super easy to do pre these changes there was no real mechanic to stop it in the past. Now that griefing has to be well planed or its going to lead to war. Similarly i personally think threres still plenty of defensive actions u can take like u can still MS the enemy for waving u, u just open up their ability to op back and if u want to spend days and days playing defensively its a mechanics abuse to do that outside of war.
My only point was i dont see how u can call it a completely differnt game when the mechanics barely change compared to mechanical changes in the past.