Worst kingdom of all time?

[octobrev]

An interesting perspective, albeit a misguided one. There was no "Pulsing Trollfags" age, we were tagged Beastblood all age and renamed to Pulsing Trollfags at the age end for fun. I recall barely saving the age when a haphazard group of trollfags wanted to fight Mercy the first time with 7 EPA, upon convincing the trollfags, inexperienced at warring against anyone but your own multis that perhaps we should go 9 EPA instead, we barely survived against Mercy which ran 12 EPA. It was smooth sailing after that, however.

After a sudden departure at the end leaving BB scrambling to find 10 replacements, the few ages the true crown was the BB vs Cromulent Republic crown, in which the former Trollfags thought they found salvation in a new hero named Zauper. "How could our all star lineup of 10 leaders possibly lose to a kd with just flogger" a trollfag once exclaimed. But ragequit ole munk did just a few days later in their own council chan.

The pulsing trollfag strife came at a cost, however. Had the trollfags simply stayed put they probably win 17 of 20 of the next crowns, but the toll of taking on such a kd 3 ages in a row, mixed with ole flog no longer being able to play at work burned out BB's flame, creating the opportunity for Emeriti to emerge.

However, after a win, Emeriti still feared ole BB enough to hunt them even in their own end of war! Just the mere sight of BB exploring was enough for them to abandon all previously established norms. Not even Sonata caused such a response. Sure, Dreams got GB'd once, but so fearful of BB the group responsible ceased as soon as we asked, saving the trollfag age.

What would Sonata have done had they gotten hit in their own End of War? History suggests a mass deletion. But what would BB do? They'd do what no one else in 20 some odd years would do, despite many many attempts and failure. BB would win the true crown, gifting the secondary crown that age to the Expendables.

After the true crown race, both emeriti and BB bowed out for awhile, and Cromulent enjoyed their time in the sun, and of course we all know emeriti eventually regrouped, but even the new BB has won a couple times since then as well. But if we go back some 30 some ages since the initial Sonata 2 peat, which was impressive, It seems like the trollfags couldn't win without ole flog pulling the strings. Would have been interesting to see how the last 20 ages would have played out without that rather silly breakup.

We most certainly did not want to war Mercy a first time. We didn't want to war Sanctuary either. As the finest whores and bankers in the game, early wars go against everything we stand for. Those were your drunken, risky, egotistical, and woefully unprofitable decisions. I'm glad you managed to pull off the wins, but it was all entirely unnecessary and highly counterproductive. We told you this when it happened and we told you again when we left.



Furthermore, per the vote in the external forums, the name of the kingdom was the PULSING Trollfags. You did tag Beastblood all age. Mango was kind enough to correct it during the final tick so the records would be accurate. Not for fun. As for CRv1, I can't really speak to it as I wasn't involved. As far as I'm aware, it was a war oriented KD, not a real one. Got to claim your victories where you can though I guess. You're record needs all the fluff it can get.


The prospect of staying together sure is a curious one. I found your approach to war to be impressive and insightful. I just wish we could had kept you in a cage and let you out when it was time. I also voted for the Beastblood name and was sad to see that it had lost. I went so far as to make a banner for it, expecting it to win.

[flogger]

We most certainly did not want to war Mercy a first time. We didn't want to war Sanctuary either. As the finest whores and bankers in the game, early wars go against everything we stand for. Those were your drunken, risky, egotistical, and woefully unprofitable decisions. I'm glad you managed to pull off the wins, but it was all entirely unnecessary and highly counterproductive. We told you this when it happened and we told you again when we left.



Furthermore, per the vote in the external forums, the name of the kingdom was the PULSING Trollfags. You did tag Beastblood all age. Mango was kind enough to correct it during the final tick so the records would be accurate. Not for fun. As for CRv1, I can't really speak to it as I wasn't involved. As far as I'm aware, it was a war oriented KD, not a real one. Got to claim your victories where you can though I guess. You're record needs all the fluff it can get.


The prospect of staying together sure is a curious one. I found your approach to war to be impressive and insightful. I just wish we could had kept you in a cage and let you out when it was time. I also voted for the Beastblood name and was sad to see that it had lost. I went so far as to make a banner for it, expecting it to win.

How one wins your age crowns matters more than simply winning them, something I wish you guys could have embraced. I take alot of pride in being able to go to any random kd like pulse or bio, win in the first shot largely against people that have needed to put 15 superstars together just to be able to compete. The age with you guys shows what happens when I get the superstars.

[Palem]

I take alot of pride in being able to go to any random kd like pulse or bio, win in the first shot largely against people that have needed to put 15 superstars together just to be able to compete.

Random kingdoms lol

[AquaSeaFoam]

To this day, they say Exci has to look under the bed for Sonata players before ASF will come into the room at night. And here BB is showing up in the second post of a worst kingdoms of all time thread...

Now, now, let's not forget that it was Sonata who fabricated an excuse to mass GB Rage when Rage was sitting in #1 and the Rage-Sonata CF was a couple days from expiring. After Rage warred the first of the GB'ing kingdoms (PBs) and was preparing for Sonata, Sonata then mass deleted rather than take that war. Rage continued to farm the rest of Sonata's allies and finished in #1. Hardly the thing of nightmares.

However, after a win, Emeriti still feared ole BB enough to hunt them even in their own end of war! Just the mere sight of BB exploring was enough for them to abandon all previously established norms. Not even Sonata caused such a response. Sure, Dreams got GB'd once, but so fearful of BB the group responsible ceased as soon as we asked, saving the trollfag age.

Emeriti recommended that the a ghetto player (Bourreau) with the #1 province get a cf with BB before BB farmed him. When BB read and didn't respond to Borreau's cf attempts, he made a raze on BB while offering to give BB all the razed land back for a cf. This reality doesn't fit your narrative. Is Emeriti being scared that BB would farm out a large ghetto province (and telling him to get a cf) really something worth bragging about?

The gb on dreams was a clusterf- on many levels but I won't get into that here.

[Korp]

Now, now, let's not forget that it was Sonata who fabricated an excuse to mass GB Rage when Rage was sitting in #1 and the Rage-Sonata CF was a couple days from expiring. After Rage warred the first of the GB'ing kingdoms (PBs) and was preparing for Sonata, Sonata then mass deleted rather than take that war. Rage continued to farm the rest of Sonata's allies and finished in #1. Hardly the thing of nightmares.



Emeriti recommended that the a ghetto player (Bourreau) with the #1 province get a cf with BB before BB farmed him. When BB read and didn't respond to Borreau's cf attempts, he made a raze on BB while offering to give BB all the razed land back for a cf. This reality doesn't fit your narrative. Is Emeriti being scared that BB would farm out a large ghetto province (and telling him to get a cf) really something worth bragging about?

The gb on dreams was a clusterf- on many levels but I won't get into that here.

Now, now, we know the "read and didnt respond" is just a excuse.

[AquaSeaFoam]

Now, now, we know the "read and didnt respond" is just a excuse.

An excuse for a lone province to raze and offer all land back for a cf? Umm....ok.

The message wasn't read as I was sleeping when it was sent, so that is lie. And when I woke up, the raze was already done.
And uh, do you honestly really really really think we would explore in eowcf to hit a random exploring n00b? Or would we prepare for the #1 kingdom? Let that sudder for a bit and then consider which reality is more likely; yours or mine.

You are just a sore loser for still trying to defend your/Bourreau's actions.

As was established in the old threads on this topic, Borreau messaged the M and S asking for a cf and one of them read it and didn't respond. He then messaged others in the kingdom who were online asking them to respond urgently and these also didn't get a response. A couple hours later he then razed for attention and again messaged asking for a cf and offered to give back all the land razed for a cf. As was well established, he had a very brief window where BB had essentially no defense after they released all d specs, and if he waited, BB would have trained up and had no reason to give him a cf.

The #1 kingdom (Emeriti) was in cf talks with you and BB leadership was indicating they preferred to cf Emeriti and so Emeriti advised Borreau to get himself a cf fast. As for the sore loser comment, it was not me who brought this incident up here, I just corrected the facts. I believe my record vs BB is approximately 9 wins and 1 loss and that one loss to the Pulsing Trollfags was well earned by them. Emeriti was about to beat BB again with the cf set to expire and that is when BB had to resort to a gb rather than lose another 1v1 war. To be clear, Emeriti never even touched BB in this and their role was just to advise a lone ghetto province to get himself a cf since Emeriti was in talks to cf BB leaving BB free to farm said #1 prov.

[protector]

An excuse for a lone province to raze and offer all land back for a cf? Umm....ok.




As was established in the old threads on this topic, Borreau messaged the M and S asking for a cf and one of them read it and didn't respond. He then messaged others in the kingdom who were online asking them to respond urgently and these also didn't get a response. A couple hours later he then razed for attention and again messaged asking for a cf and offered to give back all the land razed for a cf. As was well established, he had a very brief window where BB had essentially no defense after they released all d specs, and if he waited, BB would have trained up and had no reason to give him a cf.

The #1 kingdom (Emeriti) was in cf talks with you and BB leadership was indicating they preferred to cf Emeriti and so Emeriti advised Borreau to get himself a cf fast. As for the sore loser comment, it was not me who brought this incident up here, I just corrected the facts. I believe my record vs BB is approximately 9 wins and 1 loss and that one loss to the Pulsing Trollfags was well earned by them. Emeriti was about to beat BB again with the cf set to expire and that is when BB had to resort to a gb rather than lose another 1v1 war. To be clear, Emeriti never even touched BB in this and their role was just to advise a lone ghetto province to get himself a cf since Emeriti was in talks to cf BB leaving BB free to farm said #1 prov.

No, you think you established that. The facts show otherwise.
As for CF talks; I dont recall speaking to anyone about CF and the verdict in our leaderchan was we wouldn't CF you. I'm not even sure where this suddenly comes from anyway? This is a first time I hear this.

And as for your record.... The sore loser comment has nothing to do with having won or lost a fight, its because you still deny things that happened 10 years ago, while knowing there was evidence from your leaderchannel that prove you wrong. Hence; sore loser.

And this lone province being a former emeriti.. well, lets put it this way; if I raze your cow while my former kingdom is about to fight you a few days later, the server would be too small for the ****storm that'll run over.

[flogger]

An excuse for a lone province to raze and offer all land back for a cf? Umm....ok.




As was established in the old threads on this topic, Borreau messaged the M and S asking for a cf and one of them read it and didn't respond. He then messaged others in the kingdom who were online asking them to respond urgently and these also didn't get a response. A couple hours later he then razed for attention and again messaged asking for a cf and offered to give back all the land razed for a cf. As was well established, he had a very brief window where BB had essentially no defense after they released all d specs, and if he waited, BB would have trained up and had no reason to give him a cf.

The #1 kingdom (Emeriti) was in cf talks with you and BB leadership was indicating they preferred to cf Emeriti and so Emeriti advised Borreau to get himself a cf fast. As for the sore loser comment, it was not me who brought this incident up here, I just corrected the facts. I believe my record vs BB is approximately 9 wins and 1 loss and that one loss to the Pulsing Trollfags was well earned by them. Emeriti was about to beat BB again with the cf set to expire and that is when BB had to resort to a gb rather than lose another 1v1 war. To be clear, Emeriti never even touched BB in this and their role was just to advise a lone ghetto province to get himself a cf since Emeriti was in talks to cf BB leaving BB free to farm said #1 prov.

While I'm sure this fantasy land of having a 9 to 1 war win record is a great place to live (I happen to remember maybe losing land 2 or 3 times, and out-crowning Rage or Emeriti during our respective times playing together. But yes, dorje has done better than my old stomping grounds, unfortunately, I wish it weren't the case),

But let's just stick to the logs for the facts on this incident?

From your council chan. The orders were clear a minute after a message was sent. If only emeriti's great talent at winning wars could be harnessed to predict that a kingdom lead by me wouldn't endlessly farm a ghetto province given that I've never done that ever in like 40 ages, and instead was gunning for a 1/2 fight, which I've done for almost 40 ages.

cerberusv6.66 7:34 PM
I think we lose them, and I think we want homes
if we're going to fight, we need to go all in on the preparation
before, wehn it looked like it was just one big prov, it looked a lot less scary
things as they stand look very loseable for us
so yeah, we need to do as much as possible. I' not sure what is optimal for said preparation though
but I don't think we want stables while we're preparing
bour 7:41 PM
msged BB ingame
Off. Points 66,646
cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
gonna get that cf?
bour 7:42 PM
will try to get it
cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
give them at most 3 hours to respond
start killing if they don't answer or try to delay
imo
bour 7:44 PM
the guy has 12k defense
lol



Lastly there's always the little inconvenient fact that you could have prevented us from farming your ghetto friend simply by engaging us in a war. We were #1 and #2 at the time. You say now it's a war you would have won, but the logs seems to imply you wouldn't. And the sheer fact you weren't planning on stopping us from farming Bour yourself indicates it wasn't a war you were favored to win. Fact of the matter is BB or BB friendly kds for the large part of 20 straight ages either won vs abs or let HoH win. Mostly cause HoH only became friendly with abs from me bringing them in during the sonata awar, and from me knowing it'd drive the rest of the abs kds crazy.

But going from age 48 (My first age leaving Abs) to age 65 (the awar age, and my last age playing with BB). Crown counts were 5 for me and 2 for Rage/Emeriti. Give you points for HoH wins or Sanc wins and give me points for like Jerk wins or AMA wins, and it's 11 to 6. Emeriti got one win the age before the awar age as you kept it secret that you were even competing so you caught me off guard once. I was looking forward to reminding y'all who was the BKE the following age, shame ya didn't feel confident enough to let us pump in EoW in peace.

That was a good 5 years of being 2nd best, I suppose fantasyland is a more pleasant place to reside.

[protector]

Emeriti recommended that the a ghetto player (Bourreau) with the #1 province get a cf with BB before BB farmed him. When BB read and didn't respond to Borreau's cf attempts, he made a raze on BB while offering to give BB all the razed land back for a cf. This reality doesn't fit your narrative. Is Emeriti being scared that BB would farm out a large ghetto province (and telling him to get a cf) really something worth bragging about?

The message wasn't read as I was sleeping when it was sent, so that is lie. And when I woke up, the raze was already done.
And uh, do you honestly really really really think we would explore in eowcf to hit a random exploring n00b? Or would we prepare for the #1 kingdom? Let that sudder for a bit and then consider which reality is more likely; yours or mine.

You are just a sore loser for still trying to defend your/Bourreau's actions.

[Helluva]

You guys still do this?

[Pillz]

You are arguing from the perspective that there was only one playing field for good kds back then, like there is now. You know that that's not true, though. Kds could switch between honor or land age to age easily, and a good 100-50 mediocre war kds existed that could baby themselves. Kingdoms like regulators, vicious, ninjas, sinners, voexm, whisperers, screwups, etc all existed and simply choose not to crown or compete in land charts because we had other ideas of fun. Ofc whisperers and screwups loved to honor crown but neither made a bid to go for land/nw either.

I think regulators suffered a single loss on their 3 age streak of wrecking everyone?

I'm the end, this a worst kd thread. DoA VS sinners is hardly a comparison and both pale in comparison to Simians. BB is terrible but not the worst either.

Which is Simians. Floggers anris boy toy.

[Syntico]

What's going on here.. ?

[Elit]

What's going on here.. ?

People remember good old times :)

About Simians they was better from most average KDs so we can say they was "TOP". Main problem is Anri was way to confident all time...but at least he was fun person to communicate.

[Chuck]

Steel, give it up already. I led Simians, and I played in your trash of a kd as well. I recall it took your kd 24 hours to kill off my province when I got sick of your nonsense. Perhaps you guys were better than ghettos, but you could never compare to Simians.

[Pillz]

Steel, give it up already. I led Simians, and I played in your trash of a kd as well. I recall it took your kd 24 hours to kill off my province when I got sick of your nonsense. Perhaps you guys were better than ghettos, but you could never compare to Simians.

You were absolutely terrible and played in Sinners v2, which was created out of random players around a core of 4 Sinners within 24h. Of everybody to join in those 2 ages, only one would ever be invited back or counted amongst Sinners.

We also never tagged during those ages, or even in v3, for the specific reason that garbage like you tarnished the name.

I honestly remember nothing about Halfling whatsoever except that we trolled the **** out of him and his KDs ingame and on irc/forums.

Zulu your KD is just bad. ze trolls has the exact same communication/intel setup as you do but are actually a great kd. theyd probably be able to compete using IRC or slack or something instead of sapp. In any case, don't blame me for not dedicating time or effort to hopeless ghettos like SYG.