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    What kd is it? I have to know to avoid the possible griefing

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    One province was messaged, you. Stop creating multies.

    For what it's worth I do not agree with the messaging, I would have just IP banned you.

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    I reacted on discord.

    Davidc ignored the issue of course

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    Who is to hold administrator Sassie Wolf accountable for crimes against the community? In an ideal world Bishop will IP ban them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie View Post
    You are welcome to play if you follow the rules. Griefing is against the rules.
    Griefing? That's not how it works with attacking. Unless it's a verified multi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie View Post
    If an admin has to message you and tell you to stop, consider yourself right on the line.
    What if the admin has no clue that ingame is self-policing except when fake warring/multis are involved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie View Post
    You are welcome to play if you follow the rules. Griefing is against the rules.
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    grief (grēf)
    n.
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    a. Deep mental anguish, as that arising from bereavement, or an instance of this. See Synonyms at regret.
    b. A source or cause of deep mental anguish: "That knowledge would be a grief to her" (Tobias Wolff).
    2.
    a. Annoyance or frustration, or an instance of this: Trying to follow their directions was nothing but grief.
    b. Trouble or difficulty, or an instance of this: the griefs of trying to meet a deadline.
    c. Informal Criticism or rude talk: gave me a lot of grief about being late.

    Utopia Rules do not mention griefing. There is the dictionary's definition so you are well informed...
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    I suffered deep mental anguish when I was bereaved of my 2b gc while keeping my head down and being careful not to break any rules. Nobody punished David for griefing or even bothered to send him a warning.

    Grief isn't against the rules. Grief is the rules.
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    So someone multied, and instead of a deletion for cheating they got a warning not to grief.

    Will this new change in the rules be formalized DavidC and/or JeffT?

    Or did your favorite admin neglect her responsibility to action cheaters and yours just gonna let that slide, and ignore the precedent it sets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillz View Post
    So someone multied, and instead of a deletion for cheating they got a warning not to grief.

    Will this new change in the rules be formalized DavidC and/or JeffT?

    Or did your favorite admin neglect her responsibility to action cheaters and yours just gonna let that slide, and ignore the precedent it sets?
    Nah, he got deleted made a new account and started griefing the ones that reported him.

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    So the warning was frivolous and unwarranted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillz View Post
    So the warning was frivolous and unwarranted?
    Correct but seems it's the plan in retaining new players. They are discouraged when someone grief them so you make the offending provs stop and maybe the recieving province stick arou d rather than quit.

    Nothing I agree with though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Correct but seems it's the plan in retaining new players. They are discouraged when someone grief them so you make the offending provs stop and maybe the recieving province stick arou d rather than quit.

    Nothing I agree with though.
    Haven't we already seen this episode last year? Admin really has no business in stepping in to protect 'new players' ingame. Where's my protection when someone interferes with my ingame plans for the luls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    Haven't we already seen this episode last year? Admin really has no business in stepping in to protect 'new players' ingame. Where's my protection when someone interferes with my plans for the luls?
    Well you could argue the situation is different in this case cause they are being griefed for doing what is perceived correct. In this case reporting a cheater shouldn't result in someone harassing you.

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    is it really against the rules if you get deleted but not perma banned to create a new province provided that you now follow the rules, even if you are out to start things with your new province? It would usually be you vs the kingdom that you are trying to harass and the kingdom you landed in that want none of this and might remove you themself.

    The kingdom wide razing of another kingdom can be countered quite easily by forcing cf, it is quite a lot to have to wait 1 week and get insta cf'ed if you continue. If it is a big problem that single provinces tries to do this slap a 7 day ban instead of 24 hour cooldown on anyone getting deleted for violations, that way you don't need to force ip ban.
    Furthermore I think Carthage should be destroyed and Dryads brought back to the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    Well you could argue the situation is different in this case cause they are being griefed for doing what is perceived correct. In this case reporting a cheater shouldn't result in someone harassing you.
    People have always traditionally been harassed for reporting.

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