BIO vs ghettocats

[TheRock]

I doubt that 3 alliances is a stable state. Each pair of alliances has an incentive to merge, and if that happened you would have 2 alliances.


Yes, and if war was better for growth than peace, I suspect KDs (even those on friendly terms) would prefer to fight each other than ally with each other.

Shouldn't you be hunting walruses and trying to stop your ice from melting?

[Crazy Pete]

Personally I haven't lost one shiny ever to Silly Cats, although I can verify they did rob many kingdom mates last age and this age.

We AW'd the larger undeads you had. The smaller undeads you had grew, resulting in your entire kingdom having terrible WPA. If you don't know how 100 nightmares with 90% success rate affect a province that starts on 80k defense looks then I'd suggest doing some math. Or just ask HoH for a copy of their provinces news once war hit.

Ya it's a brutal combo but needs a pro kingdom to run it effectively. It literally takes almost a full hour of opps to bend over a guy, the attacks are usually in the last 10-15 minutes before the tick. It's a lot of work, and kudos to BiO for being able to keep thier waves going and keeping armies close.

Inso waving is to be expected......Respect is earned, not given, and people usually demand retribution when wronged, it's only natural. Under the laughter is a lot of anger on both sides, maybe all involved can learn form it and move on next age after all kingdoms involved get it out of thier system and bury the hatchet.

Top Kingdoms and "ghettos" have thier own seperate ideas which are completely different from each other so they will never agree on what is right and wrong when talking about hostiles and NAPS. I personally tend to side with ghetto kingdoms that playing provinces which are full of gold or low defense fatties isn't right.

It would be nice if more ghettos kept the top "honest". The problem lies that there are 1-2 kingdoms out there doing what Cats is doing and unless you spread the love evenly or get other kingdoms involved it isn't fair. If your to screw kingdoms over the screwing should be fairly even amongst the top. When it's targted at a few kingdoms and not the rest it changes the outcome of the top end fights.

When you contnually target the same kingdoms you are a cyber bully---really whats the difference between some cyber gc and stealing a kids lunch continually because you can get away with it. Or make fun of someoene every time you see them , once or twice here an there is just a little fun....continually is just being a bully.

I find it ironic that Cats colour is pink, since April 10th is the anti-bully Day of Pink to make people conscious of bullies and to try to eliminate it. I would just say the next time you do something on a computer game or in real life to think about it if the roles were reversed. If you're conscious is clean then by all means it truly is fun (for both sides), if you can't say that then that's bullying.

I am not saying who is right in this conflict all I am saying is if people had more respect/honor/ and game manship, the game would be better for all parties involved.

[nooblet]

Why is it horrible to steal gc but not horrible to feed off the rest of the server and treat them as your personal land farms? People steal... most of the server has to spend their gc piles or risk being plundered, so why should the top be any different? Most of the server has little money to steal because anyone with any large pile of gc gets plundered within hours, so it's expected that theft runs are targetted towards the few kingdoms that can hold on to huge amounts of cash.

I can get people targetting and gbing Cats over theft, but making it out to be this horrible breach of conduct is a bit ridiculous.

[Elit]

Why is it horrible to steal gc but not horrible to feed off the rest of the server and treat them as your personal land farms? People steal... most of the server has to spend their gc piles or risk being plundered, so why should the top be any different? Most of the server has little money to steal because anyone with any large pile of gc gets plundered within hours, so it's expected that theft runs are targetted towards the few kingdoms that can hold on to huge amounts of cash.

I can get people targetting and gbing Cats over theft, but making it out to be this horrible breach of conduct is a bit ridiculous.

Noting wrong to rob, noting wrong to hit but if you keep it on same target for long this make all personal and he will be pissed off. When you doing it on weak kd you can go away from it when you doing it on big kd you wont get away. This is very very simple. So when you pick your "piss off" target make sure they cant pay back you. Its not only about robing. Utopia is human vs human game. People are getting mad for different reasons. So some one from them will try to hurt you. Its normal and happen to top kds all time too.

[TeddybearSTHLM]

Inso waving is to be expected......Respect is earned, not given, and people usually demand retribution when wronged, it's only natural. Under the laughter is a lot of anger on both sides, maybe all involved can learn form it and move on next age after all kingdoms involved get it out of thier system and bury the hatchet.

You really do not realize there is no anger from our side at all? :)

[Koodo]

You really do not realize there is no anger from our side at all? :)

Then you must be the aggressor/in the wrong 100% in this ordeal because all people from both parties can not say the same thing. Perhaps if large kingdom would be able to have fun just as effectively vs a smaller kingdom, the game would be fun for all! They can have fun with a big kingdom so why not go both ways?

The game mechanics are meant to protect nubs and when good small kingdoms like Cats or Troll Fags abuse the systems it isn't fair to the larger kingdoms. Protecting small kingdoms and small provinces is meant to grow the game, and not make people want to quit after betting raped by bigger kingdoms. If the game isn't growing, which it hasn't in quite some time shouldn't it be time to adjust the game mechanics?

I would personally love old school razes back, with all of the intel farms out there wouldn't it be nice to kill em off just to make em go away for 3 days? Situations like this might warrant a raze if you couldn't work out a diplomatic solution, whether it be cats razing bio or bio razing Cats. PK each others provs, start a new one.... now that's fun. Seeing a kingdom 1/2 pk'd is a sight to see.

[TeddybearSTHLM]

I fail to see why we have to be the aggressor just because we are not angry? we're just silly and happy and not letting stuff get to us =)

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure I should continue writing in this thread. Most stuff has already been written in the depths of the monster that now is this thread, and I don't feel like repeating them over and over again.

[Elit]

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure I should continue writing in this thread. Most stuff has already been written in the depths of the monster that now is this thread, and I don't feel like repeating them over and over again.

You should post summary. Still none did it. Look like you have war 1vs1 atm ?

[Peto]

Angry, no.
Somewhat irritated at times, yes.
Irritated by all the lies.
Especially when the lies are so very unnecessary, we did enough last age to give BIO enough reason to get back at us.
The way they have tried I will not comment in this post, only that I think they have enough reasons to do something without having to lie to justify their actions.

[Handym@n]

tick tock tick tock.. :)
we BIO will save tons of GC and wait for you after your War with Inso is over.. and we will see..

P.S. i like you to try stealing it.. :)

[Elurin]

Are people seriously still discussing? Or whining? Let go already.

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 68 (16,351 acres)
-- Traditional march: 62 (15,827 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (524 acres)
-- Failed: 3 (4.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 32
Total attacks suffered: 57 (17,859 acres)
-- Traditional march: 56 (17,657 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (202 acres)
-- Uniques: 23

Since war start, nw diff decreased by 1 mil NW. We'll win.

[Handym@n]

Congratz then.. if u win.. :)

[Elurin]

And yes - it's been 1 vs 1 since war's start (Bio hit/razed up until declare). The above statement goes if Inso has the guts to try to fight us alone, we'll see.

[Handym@n]

Hope your war will be over sooner.. :)

[Elit]

Are people seriously still discussing? Or whining? Let go already.

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 68 (16,351 acres)
-- Traditional march: 62 (15,827 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (524 acres)
-- Failed: 3 (4.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 32
Total attacks suffered: 57 (17,859 acres)
-- Traditional march: 56 (17,657 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (202 acres)
-- Uniques: 23

Since war start, nw diff decreased by 1 mil NW. We'll win.

Look like close war. Lets see if you can make more attacks from my waring ghetto :)

For the period of July 1 of YR8 to January 15 of YR9 (39 hours)
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince
Total Attacks Made: 196 (18531 acres)
-- Traditional March: 179 (17708 acres)
-- Conquest: 5 (180 acres)
-- Ambush: 7 (643 acres)
-- Learns: 1
-- Failed Attacks: 4 (2% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 196 (18794 acres)
-- Traditional March: 181 (17610 acres)
-- Ambush: 13 (1184 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 2 (1% failure)

The n00b who did learn during war was me :D