That can't be right since you took acres from Bour as compensation for what he did and then cfedOriginally Posted by flogger
And how can you consider killing someone to be a reasonable punishment for 300 ish acre worth of hits when you already had taken like ten times that back? A bit unsure of the actual numbers but you gained alot more than you lost. In my book that would count as acres gained not as something to kill someone over?
Last edited by Mithras; 24-06-2015 at 02:49.
Ummm, no bour ran into a war and we couldn't do anything for 6 days. By that time, yes our plans were set 10+ days after the hits. But I had long since stopped doing diplo by then. That diplo was just between prot and bour and the diplo between me and emeriti had been dead for a week.
Last edited by flogger; 24-06-2015 at 02:49.
Ok, so now you want to say that your actions and BB are not related to each other?
Or do you mean that you didn't take any acres from bour?
I will say if it were up to me I wouldn't have taken bours acres 10 days after the fact, but i never strongly said not to either. we had to close that diplo one way or another it was 10 days. I think the stronger message is not taking any acres to make a point, but I was slacking and didn't care much either way once we had the logs and bour wasn't gonna take himself out.
Last edited by flogger; 24-06-2015 at 03:05.
Flogger
"Our whole leadership chan shows our intention to dealbreak the second we knew it was bourreau
AquaSeaFoam
"So my point is that if you knew who it was when you made the deal and you planned to deal break from the time you knew who it was, then you made the deal with the intention of breaking it"
Flogger
"Of course, 100% no denial"
It's convenient that ASF ignores the fact on more than one occasion Absalom leadership people cheated more than he claimed... will we see a I wasn't aware" now?
I still gave you multiple days of diplo to remedy the situation and you offerred us nothing and rejected every proposal we made. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to want to kill you once we knew who it was. It's pretty hard for us to rally 5 kingdoms if your guy bites the bullet. You just aren't good enough at the diplomacy part to realize that, you've never had to give anything since you've always had the numbers.
For the record, cj has seen the unedited logs of our leadership channel from about 12 hours before we got hit to the second prot discovered it was bourreau and i said the line "that's a holy **** abs can get ganged moment"
So attempting to make our leadership out to look like unreasonable assholes is not really going to work because from the second we got hit i did two things:
1) try and convince the leadership to throw everything else aside and burn bour to the ground because I felt hitting into eow was an egregious offense. I mentioned cf'ing abs immediately and I've since posted logs of leshrak ignoring me for 16 hours. Your attempts to make me look bad by agreeing to a cf and then break it are silly since a neutral party knows my intentions and its your monarch that took a day to get back to me and it was within that day we found out who it was.
2) tell everyone in my chan abs had nothing to do with it because I mistakenly thought they had some class
This is why I was so quick to accept your offer of a mutual leadership log posting, which you have since backed out of because it contains tons of talk of you justifying hitting into eow because you think it's imbalanced and you wanting to solve the situation by just farming bourreau yourself
Boom
Last edited by flogger; 24-06-2015 at 03:35.
The only proposal that was rejected was that you insisted Emeriti drop out of the top and give up on competing already in YR1. Emeriti offered their own land to Bb, gc, whatever adjusted cf terms BB wanted, and whatever Bb felt needed to ensure their position was not harmed. You are the one who rejected all offers and whenever one of your offers was going to be accepted, you would change it to say that was only one part of your conditions and then add in a bunch more ridiculous stuff. Since you had already decided on deal break from the first day Bour hit you, it's clear why you didn't want to fix the situation.
You have said many times that you and Protector are the only leaders in BB and most leadership talk in BB is done between you and protector only. You refused to share your logs with protector and that's what killed the deal. Emeriti has wanted to release their full logs since well before you posted any logs and before your deal break. In addition, it would be impossible to post unedited logs due to locs so they'd all have to be edited and you've proven that you're not trustable.
Flogger
"Youre not gonna get the pm logs of me and protector."
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 24-06-2015 at 03:36.
I find your reasoning a bit wierd again. Of course you come across as unreasonable.
Bour asked you what you wanted and protector said he wanted a farm war. When bour denied a farm war you asked for 2500 acre + an acre cap on bour provs wich was agreed to. That would be a nice gain compared to what you lost. In addition to that Emeriti asked you what you wanted for it to be even. All of that is more than fair compensation for the transgressions in question. Instead you were asking for ppl to delete or not to compete wich just comes across as one of two things:
Either: You were suggesting things that were deliberatly unreasonable to avoid making a deal before you could get the bg started
Or: You were hoping to eliminate your only real competition for a cakewalk crown
But, all in all, there is one key line in here.
This sums it up completely. You wanted to GB emeriti. No matter if the excuses held together or not. And tbh I would personaly feel very much refreshed if you just said that. "I just wanted to kill you a**holes. F*ck the reasons" After weeks of bullsh*t back and forth some honesty would be much appriciated. I'd even think that the utopian comunity would respect that approach more. I for one definetly would.
Last edited by Mithras; 24-06-2015 at 04:16.
*raises hand*
Mithras & asf you keep saying flogger lied, but the fact is you guys lied, you said you dident know the guy who razed, after that your word was nothingless, you can spin and spin all day you like, but you are dirty dogs and derserve any bit you get and we will not stop before you fall on your kness and admit you been dirty lil liers and been spinning bull**** for the last 2 weeks.
Die abs dogs.
When are people gonna get on playing the game instead of going round in circles trying to seperate black and white from grey?
In my own comfort ghetto
PyroManiaCs (retired)
AC (retired)
To be fair we're playing the game and they're not logging in but 3 guys that don't seem to care about anyone else won't give up
Please point me towards the post were I say that flogger lies or stop making sh*t up. Either will do.
There are currently 2 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 2 guests)
Posting Permissions
