omg omg omg panda what?!

[Elit]

I actually thought that it was brave to tackle such an elite Kingdom, we knew they would try extra hard cause thier wrath would be tremendous.

I think some one from other competitors advice you for DB Panda.

If you wanted to get good war against good kingdom you need to have fair start. Only when both KDs able to prepare and show his best you can gain respect dont matter if you win or loss. Right now you can get much attention in forum but not respect for your warring skills because beginning was unfair to Panda. Whit razes OOW you wont hold it for long and im not sure what you want to prove from keep war.

I have a lot experience in difficult situations but end is always same: all involved need to do deal. So key is to make offer when you can get best deal.

[pierniczek]

fact remains you broke a deal so others can't trust you anymore.

p.s. when i refer to cheating i am referring to deal breaks, double hostiles, 2 vs 1 wars etc. if it was against the game rules i wouldn't post, i would report

Then, noble Goodwitch, in my opinion that is not cheating because it is not punishble by the Utopian Lords.

All of the things that you mentioned happen on a daily basis in Utopia and Im pretty sure that 95% of the people posting here about how bad we are have also done all of this before.
That means they actually have no moral ground to say that we did bad. We are a ghetto and it is a learning process for us to get accustomed to these community made up rules.

[Slayerviper]

fact remains you broke a deal so others can't trust you anymore.

p.s. when i refer to cheating i am referring to deal breaks, double hostiles, 2 vs 1 wars etc. if it was against the game rules i wouldn't post, i would report

so how does anyone make CF's anymore? You continuously see DB rants from previous ages and most if not all the people here have been part of some DB (directly or indirectly)... yet diplo gets done and CF's exist within the top every age till the next DB and the cycle repeats.

[Korp]

DBx2 vs AMA because you DB others to get actioned by us. That is not a dealbreak in itself because it would never happen unless you have dealbroken others. How you fail to understand such a simple thing is amazing. You and pretty much the rest of the server believe people that DB should get actioned for it, yet you do not understand when others action you for the very same thing? Gotta love how your mind works.

Lamest excuse for a dealbreak ever. Be a man about it, dont hide behind lame justifications that are retarded anyway.

[Korp]

They attacked us last age when we were unpreparred so it was also stabbing us in the back.


It's a tactic from The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

"Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected."

There is a difference between attacking when unprepared and breaking a deal and attacking.

[Frugal Baggins]

Wow, lot's of whining. Buzz kill.

[pierniczek]

I think some one from other competitors advice you for DB Panda.

If you wanted to get good war against good kingdom you need to have fair start. Only when both KDs able to prepare and show his best you can gain respect dont matter if you win or loss. Right now you can get much attention in forum but not respect for your warring skills because beginning was unfair to Panda.

Mr. Elit the start for 8:10 was fair, they had a 10k acre advantange and 107 milion gc stacked while we had 3 milion gc across the Kingdom + they were able to hit Fort asap when we hit.
We are a ghetto, we would be never able to achieve their pump perfection.
They had a huge advantage when they declared despite our waves and it resulted in them asking not to raze. They wanted to take everything for themselves which they did but they didn't break us in the process.

[Elit]

DBx2 vs AMA because you DB others to get actioned by us. That is not a dealbreak in itself because it would never happen unless you have dealbroken others. How you fail to understand such a simple thing is amazing. You and pretty much the rest of the server believe people that DB should get actioned for it, yet you do not understand when others action you for the very same thing? Gotta love how your mind works.

I don't consider AMA deal breaking and first time when you DB us was when Pew Pew pull insane BS. Still you choice to support it and become part from biggest chart shaping in utopia past 30 ages. Second time you DB us because you simple hate us not for any kind justice. Did you try to talk with me before DB? I spend a lot time asking other KDs if we get double hostile from CR if they are going to help us. No one was interested in it when we beat 1vs1 in wars all big Kds and they was upset. So when you did noting for help us when we get massive power played and **** played all age you don't have any right to judge us for take action to punish KD for his arrogance.

[pierniczek]

There is a difference between attacking when unprepared and breaking a deal and attacking.

How so? They weren't in full war war builds so that is unprepared.

[pierniczek]

did they break an agreement to do so?

They broke a CF.

[Elit]

Mr. Elit the start for 8:10 was fair, they had a 10k acre advantange and 107 milion gc stacked while we had 3 milion gc across the Kingdom + they were able to hit Fort asap when we hit.
We are a ghetto, we would be never able to achieve their pump perfection.
They had a huge advantage when they declared despite our waves and it resulted in them asking not to raze. They wanted to take everything for themselves which they did but they didn't break us in the process.

You just admit they had advantage and you cant make pump like them for prepare for war. Its mean with proper war when both Kds give his best you will end farmed big time. So you decide to take unfair advantage for make it "even". Cant you see how wrong is this? Imagine if other KD decide to make same to you just because you are bigger so they cant war you on event terms.

[Korp]

How so? They weren't in full war war builds so that is unprepared.

So this means that Jesters dont mind any ****play at all. Just a tactical advantages. Good to know.

[Anri]

They broke a CF.

And this CF was EoA agreed ingame or on irc by Panda leaders?

[haze]

They broke a CF.

Anyone who knows hesus can say that's a lie.

[pierniczek]

You just admit they had advantage and you cant make pump like them for prepare for war. Its mean with proper war when both Kds give his best you will end farmed big time. So you decide to take unfair advantage for make it "even". Cant you see how wrong is this? Imagine if other KD decide to make same to you just because you are bigger so they cant war you on event terms.

Then we will fight them but I doubt that will happen cause we never sit on 107 milion gc stacks especially in march yr2...

"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable"