omg omg omg panda what?!

[home.alone]

This part from your post show how you dont have any idea about game. Just looking over CR setup can give you instant answer they dont have any age goal...and for sure not land chart. How hard is to understand it ??? Its not like his age is over. He have normal age like all rest Kds in server just playing and having fun.

Your post clearly shows your lack of knowledge about how people see a KD who has the reputation to go for land crowns, with or without setup, will still be considered as a kd who will go for land crowns.

[home.alone]

Ok so you think going back 3 ages is fine. Do you think if i GB you 4 ages ago and retire after start playing again its cout 4 ages or 1 ages? Can you forget and forgive it all if GB cost you win age after working hard for 10 weeks?

see, again you are trying to bring in the Sonata/Dreams conflict with ABS into picture.

You have it written all over you. That you will keep dwelling or citting over your past.

I honestly hope you do not say at work, "Do you think I farted on your face 4 days back, and then i go on vacation and come back and do the same to someone else, will you slap me?

People like you should be the ones sharing good experiences that can help promote game or new players.

But what do u do? Sit and Whine like there is no Rhyme!

[Elit]

Your post clearly shows your lack of knowledge about how people see a KD who has the reputation to go for land crowns, with or without setup, will still be considered as a kd who will go for land crowns.

My post show difference in knowledge. I have played and compete for long to can see when one Kd compete or not and n00bies don't have this knowledge so they fail in fear from other kingdom reputation.

see, again you are trying to bring in the Sonata/Dreams conflict with ABS into picture.

My comments are in general and for sure i dont intend to Bring ABS GB on Dreams age 50. Sure its cost me hell much real time and noting can compensate me for all time and nerves i loss but at least me and ASF made agreement so he apologize about GB and its why i dont bring this.
Still we have enough other stories for argue :P

But what do u do? Sit and Whine like there is no Rhyme!

Fight in forum is important part from game. All you can do ingame is send army and wait for 10-14h. Posting in forum,chat in irc till army is back is all what make game so interest.

[Bishop]

Can we try and keep the discussion to this conflict please.

[SlightlyOverdosed]

This is what your post appears to me, after cutting the crap:

Let's make a few things clear:

1. I've broken deals before, at will and no remorse. Likely to do so again.
2. I've multied before, and have been caught at least once.

4. I'm tired of people calling my "****play" for what it is.

[Bart of Sparta]

1. I've never done a clear DB. Each time there were clear grounds to break them because the deal was changed or people did not stick to the terms fully.
2. I've multied once before, 2 years ago when I wasn't even competitive yet, not even for warring crowns.
4. I'm getting signals that there is "evidence" of me being involved in this, yet so far no one has been able to show it to me. But hey, that's standard treatment of the new kids nowadays. How dare Spartans play a legit game and do well?

Edit: I saw the logs.

If the new meta is gonna be that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD should be policed, we're gonna be in for some fun-times in uto.

[Elit]

1. I've never done a clear DB. Each time there were clear grounds to break them because the deal was changed or people did not stick to the terms fully.
2. I've multied once before, 2 years ago when I wasn't even competitive yet, not even for warring crowns.
4. I'm getting signals that there is "evidence" of me being involved in this, yet so far no one has been able to show it to me. But hey, that's standard treatment of the new kids nowadays. How dare Spartans play a legit game and do well?

Edit: I saw the logs.

If the new meta is gonna be that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD should be policed, we're gonna be in for some fun-times in uto.

Being suspected in this situation is normal. You and Emerity profit most from situation and Jester actions is clear suspicious.

No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

[Bart of Sparta]

Being suspected in this situation is normal. You and Emerity profit most from situation and Jester actions is clear suspicious.

No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

Suspecting is fine, but it seems now people are just gearing up for a powerplay on whatever flimsy evidence they can gather. Our Kingdom is not welcome in the top, we know that by now. Yet we are here and we are here to stay, so deal with it. New? We're probably the oldest still-running Kingdom in utopia at the moment (over 40 ages). That made me trolol :P

The other stuff we haven't even thought about since it's not even relevant until the conflict ends.

[Binar]

No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

Shut up Elit. Noone from Pandas/sleepy/simians asked me to help before this conflict had been going on for a week, and we are in the process of razing the kd thats razing Pandas/Simians/sleepy into their war. Get your facts straight and keep Emeriti out of your paranoid conspiracies

[Bart of Sparta]

Shut up Elit. Noone from Pandas/sleepy/simians asked me to help before this conflict had been going on for a week

This. Even now no one of Pandas has even approached me to ask for help.

[Elit]

What is see is Binar and Bart dodge to give answer my questions.
Dont be surprised when ppl suspect you with this kind reaction.

p.s.
BinBin why you are so mad?

[SlightlyOverdosed]

Edit: I saw the logs.

If the new meta is gonna be that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD should be policed, we're gonna be in for some fun-times in uto.

...that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD...

Earlier in the thread you claimed:

Wtf do I have to do with any of this?

You were lying then.
You are likely lying now.

You sounds like a sleaze that can't keep his story straight. At least learn to lie competently. You will have to if you'd like to join the "top".

[Humanoize]

Being suspected in this situation is normal. You and Emerity profit most from situation and Jester actions is clear suspicious.

No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

Lol i am not sure where you play elit, nor do I care to find out who is playing where. But if you play in pandas, you re manipulating everyone how we should read this. I am playing in a warring kingdom and pandas took acres from us. When we tried to negotiate a CF your terms were unreasanable, taking clear advantage of your powerposition to act like a douche. I can imagine pandas did the same with the other crown competers when you had that position. Now pandas are crying that jesters dont wd after they clearly slowplayed to lay the foundation for the warwin. They used the excuse of dealbreaking to call in CR to raze, which was ****ty, yet understandable bc of the dealbreak. Now when emeriti, sparta and bb caught up there is additional crying and accusations. The point i am trying to make is that i hope that either emeriti, sparta or BB vultures them like hell. Karma can be a ***** and my sympathy goes to any other kd besides pandas. They also take our acres, but show much more class and dont treat us like some kind of untermensch!

[Binar]

What is see is Binar and Bart dodge to give answer my questions.
Dont be surprised when ppl suspect you with this kind reaction.

p.s.
BinBin why you are so mad?

Dodging what?
Pandas/simians/sleepy hadnt asked for help or CF extensions. Coss came and talked to me yesterday and asked what I thought about this mess, he did not ask for help or an extension (he did mention something about an extension, but no real talks where had) Also Loons from the same kd asked me late yesterday if we wanted to raze VALHALLA. I told her what I told Coss: If we had been asked to help raze Valhalla at the time they dealbroke then ofc we would help to police it.

Iam not sure what your question is Elit

[Elit]

Lol i am not sure where you play elit, nor do I care to find out who is playing where. But if you play in pandas, you re manipulating everyone how we should read this. I am playing in a warring kingdom and pandas took acres from us. When we tried to negotiate a CF your terms were unreasanable, taking clear advantage of your powerposition to act like a douche. I can imagine pandas did the same with the other crown competers when you had that position. Now pandas are crying that jesters dont wd after they clearly slowplayed to lay the foundation for the warwin. They used the excuse of dealbreaking to call in CR to raze, which was ****ty, yet understandable bc of the dealbreak. Now when emeriti, sparta and bb caught up there is additional crying and accusations. The point i am trying to make is that i hope that either emeriti, sparta or BB vultures them like hell. Karma can be a ***** and my sympathy goes to any other kd besides pandas. They also take our acres, but show much more class and dont treat us like some kind of untermensch!

I dont play in panda.

Dodging what?
Pandas/simians/sleepy hadnt asked for help or CF extensions. Coss came and talked to me yesterday and asked what I thought about this mess, he did not ask for help or an extension (he did mention something about an extension, but no real talks where had) Also Loons from the same kd asked me late yesterday if we wanted to raze VALHALLA. I told her what I told Coss: If we had been asked to help raze Valhalla at the time they dealbroke then ofc we would help to police it.

Iam not sure what your question is Elit

Sorry for make you feel unsure but this time you gave more clear answer about situation :)
I have another question: Do you remember what you forgot...related to our last chat in irc!