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    Quote Originally Posted by JinXy View Post
    I agree that buying politicians is a problem. Always has been throughout the ages. What do you mean the bailouts were necessary because it would hurt people? There should not be bailouts at all. It has never worked.
    If a major bank goes bankrupt and is allowed to fail that means that a significant amount of the people with savings there will loose their money and because laws typically mandate that debts are paid out in order of the size of the debt, starting with the biggest means that it's the "little people" that gets screwed over, every single time. At least this is true for states that doesn't have some system where the state guarantees safety for $X.
    Besides, if a large bank is allowed to fail it will typically cause a lot of troubles for the other banks because they all have their "securities" invested with each others and if they can't get at those that might mean they risk failing as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockie Cantais View Post
    How Communist of you and I'm not trying to insult you. In a way it makes a certain amount of sense. Here's the thing though you want to grow your society not cut it off at the knees. Yes, I'm a supporter of the Free Market and individual Freedom with everyone held accountable to a Moral Standard. Once you start limiting anyone or a organization you will stunt its growth. Who cares how much money they make? I don't and once they do make money hand over fist one should ask that company what have you done to give back to the society?
    How typically american of you, Socialism is not Communism. While I think his suggestion is a bit unbalanced and extreme it has absolutely nothing to do with communism(where the state owns everything). The problem is that in reality Free Market is just as flawed and unworkable as communism because it fundamentally favors monopolies or at least a market with very few(but large) actors, this gets increasingly obvious the higher the entrance cost for a market is. So you need a certain amount of regulation to prevent that from happening which means that it's not a free market anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockie Cantais View Post
    Politician I have one phrase ' TERM LIMITS ', You can't stop people being Human! We can limit their time in the unholy place called Washington DC, amen brother and sisters!! LOL, WINK.
    Term limits won't do **** as long as you have what is essentially a two party system, you need a system where whole parties can easily be switched out if they attract the ire of the voters.

    Quote Originally Posted by paul1229 View Post
    But when it comes to aiding the world or helping people, no one's heart nor wallet is bigger than the US.
    Blatantly false! Maybe you give the most in absolute numbers but that means nothing because it's just a result of being the biggest market. What matters is giving the biggest share of what you have and you certainly don't excel there. Nor do you rate very high in the reception of refugees relative to your size.

    And actually 4 bullies is better than 1 when it comes to global politics because MAD will unsure that they'd do anything to not fight each other, they'll jockey for position but they won't fight, just like the US and the Soviet Union never outright fought each others.

    And no the world wouldn't fail if the US economy failed, we'd sure notice it but it most certainly wouldn't be the end of the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    One word reply to the original question: Obama
    So then Obama must have been the president for the last 50 years? And here I thought you had a term limit of maximum 2 terms and with a term generally being 4 years...
    Last edited by Elldallan; 08-12-2013 at 13:26.
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