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    Quote Originally Posted by vines
    Nah I was talking about other things such as one being unable to get -36% attack time with 30%barrack while having a 100%BE.
    I cannot quote the posts in question, but i have a vague memory that you said that you would make sure to keep -50%-attacktime at all time... I proved that wrong, since you have to have 50% rax to get -37,5% atk-time.

    Oh, now i discovered a fault in my calculation at that time. With 50% rax, and warrior, you actually DO have -50% atk-time. But you still need 50% rax...

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    See that is wrong the max one can get is 41.25%.

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    With rax?

    EDIT: I mean, 41.25 for rax only?

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    Wow, he just keeps doing it.
    Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.

    Step one: replace everything that works.
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    Okay if you say so.

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    See, with vines, you can never be sure about anything.
    Whatever he decides to type, he may pretend he never typed a second afterwards - a bit like Edz.
    Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.

    Step one: replace everything that works.
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    Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
    Step four: thank you for your patience.

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    Im just curious from where you got that number.

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    He pulled it out of his ass, like everything else he says.
    Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.

    Step one: replace everything that works.
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    Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
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    Someone I got the number from the building calculator. VT2 no one understands the things you say.

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    Well, then we must have different versions of Angel (if that is what you are using).
    Another place to look for it is here.

    And this time, dont take this as offensive. I dont want to be on the mods hate-list. Just take it as a friendly advice and a hint to where to find some real numbers.

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    I'm not angry I'm glad you are sharing with me. I want to become a more skilled play and that web page you showed me is very impressive. I'm going to put it in my favorites. However I notice some of those numbers are wrong. Because I have 50% homes and in the game on my survey page it says I get +75% birth rate. And that's in the game. But the building calculator says the samething too.

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    The Province of Red Mist (??:??)
    [http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.92 Beta]

    Server: World of Legends (Age 40)
    Utopian Date: March 15th, YR3
    RL Date: August 31st, 2008 (20:00 GMT)
    Origin: Unformatted (1st hand)

    Ruler Name: Lord Blood Shed the Craftsman
    Personality & Race: The Artisan, Gnome
    Land: 1,159 Acres
    Money: 524,354gc (29,596gc daily income)
    Food: 87,993 bushels
    Runes: 32,225 runes
    Population: 38,040 citizens (32.82 per Acre)
    Peasants: 12,896 (100% Building Efficiency)
    Trade Balance: -63,305gc (0% tax rate)

    ME+Stance (no spells): 99.73% off. / 129.7% def.
    Soldiers: 128 (63.1% estimated draft rate)
    Halflings: 0
    Pikemen: 1,060 (6,874 defense)
    Golems: 19,744 (98,450 offense / 128,036 defense)
    War-Horses: 3,750 (up to 3,740 additional offense)
    Prisoners: 0

    Total Modified Offense: 102,317 (88.28 per Acre)
    Practical (50% elites): 53,092 (45.81 per Acre)
    Total Modified Defense: 135,076 (116.55 per Acre)
    Practical (50% elites): 71,058 (61.31 per Acre)

    Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 7,658 (6.61 / Acre)
    Estimated Thieves Number: 3,063 (2.64 per Acre)
    Estimated Wizards Number: 1,149 (0.99 per Acre)

    ** Networth Table: **
    Total Networth: 214,559gc (185.12 per Acre)
    Golems: 103,656gc (48%) - [5.25gc]
    Land (90% built): 59,109gc (28%) - [15+40gc]
    Thieves+Wizards+Science (est.): 30,632gc (14%)
    Peasants: 12,896gc (6%) - [1gc]
    Pikemen: 5,300gc (2%) - [5gc]
    War Horses: 2,250gc (1%) - [0.6gc]
    Money: 524gc (0%) - [1/1000gc]
    Soldiers: 192gc (0%) - [1.5gc]

    ** Thievery Advisor: **
    (For more accurate results, use the Thievery Calc.)
    Money: 1,115 thieves to steal up to 43,469gc
    Food: 367 thieves to steal up to 32,997 bushels
    Runes: 538 thieves to steal up to 8,459 runes
    Peasants: 3,155 thieves to kidnap up to 239 peasants
    Peasants in War: 14,706 thieves for 516 peasants
    Soldiers: 19 thieves to kill up to 19 soldiers
    Arson: 14,500 thieves to burn up to 58 homes
    Horses: 4,494 thieves to release up to 478 horses

    What 70opa/70dpa?

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    I cannot comment on that. Never ran 50% homes :)
    And if you think its incorrect, post a comment on the "discussion"-page (at the top), and see if theres anyone else who have noticed the same thing, and as soon as it is clear that the value is wrong, update it.

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    If you run 50% homes at 100% BE, your birth rate bonus will be 50% * (1 - 50%) * 3% = 75%.

    And if you're getting those numbers with half your land allocated already, you're in trouble.
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    Catwalk agrees with me. I don't care what is right or what is wrong. If I'm getting the numbers I like well that's all that matters.
    MikeTyson it's hinden as our kingdom gets closer to war you will see my province keep on getting stronger and stronger seemingly out of no where.
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