Quote Originally Posted by SnuggleySoft View Post
Haha!

What's ironic is that its the Republicans fault that they are "dinosaurs." Bill Clinton raised the required mpg for cars, and then it was reversed under Bush. However, by that time, Japan had heard that it was going higher so they built more efficient cars. So now they have much better products than we do.

Republicans, (besides some like Schwarzenegger(*sp)), never raised standards so our cars are no longer competitive except for the few hybrids we have, but you have to wait forever to get one. They said that raising the standards would hurt the car companies, (what prophets!). Those dumb asses need to stop taking money from oil companies.

Suggestion: ExxonMobil bails out GM.

WOW...so...the government, as opposed to the marketplace, should make decisions about what people drive? That may be the most Marxist load of crap I have read on these forums in a while!

Here are the contributing factors as I see it: (my opinion as a consumer and taxpayer in the US)

- The big 3 have fallen behind in quality. This is probably the single greatest contributor. Toyota, Honda and Nissan have offered better warranties for more than a decade, on top of which, you need the warranty less.

- The unions and the managers of yesterday where all incredibly short-sighted money grubbers. They sold out the future some 20 years ago. Now they are gone and our current crop of union thugs and managers are scrambling to make ends meet in an impossible scenario.

- Michigan has taxed resident corporations to the point where they must go overseas to produce a product at a proffit, to say nothing of the federal taxes on corporations. Michigans localized recession has been in full swing for a decade. Yet the morons keep electing the same type of people, whom keep enforcing/enacting the same silly union friendly, tax happy legislation.

I have been a die-hard Ford lover for 30 years. I now own 1 '93 F150, a Nissan Titan, and a Nissan Altima. I have had the Ford since it was new and have gotten my money out of it, but I cannot bring myself to purchase another. The price is way too high for the product. Perhaps if Joe Schitt union wasnt pulling in 70 bucks an hour in pay and benefits, their products would be priced a litte more competitively.

Now I see people on these forums supporting the theory that MY government should put a gun to MY head (If you dont believe taxes are seized at the point of a gun, dont pay them for a couple of years. Some friendly IRS agents will come for a visit and demonstrate my point.), seize MY hard earned meager restitution, benevolently hand MY money to someone making 3 times MY wage whom is too stupid to make their own enterprise proffitable.

You would have to be crazy to support such balderdash.