Acres & Def points required OOP

[mofatty]

Hey there. I used to play way back in the days of "regency" and up until about age 28. I stopped for a bit and now im back

I'm just curious what is a good acreage to come OOP with?

or

what is a good DPA to come out with

thx

[bigboywasim]

Hey there. I used to play way back in the days of "regency" and up until about age 28. I stopped for a bit and now im back

I'm just curious what is a good acreage to come OOP with?

or

what is a good DPA to come out with

thx

Gains are based on networth now. It depends on the kingdom but most people try to aim for the following

Non-Gnome

600 acres

3800 offensive specs
1200 defensive specs
600 thieves

Try to get some elites if you are elf mixed with the offense specs

Gnome

600 acres

3500 elites
1200 defensive specs
900 thieves

Plunders OOP

[3pillars]

Hey Dude, welcome back.

I am G.O.D age 8, Gruntjag, Don Coleone and a couple more ages as the usual Dwarf lover many years ago.

Hope you remember me.

You as I remember always have the best OOP strat:)

Do PM me coz I wish to invite you to join my kingdom.

BTW to answer your question aprox 600 acres OOP is good.

Often we measure 2:1 off spec to def spec ratio instead of DPA, that's how my kd decides on DPA..

In the long run with the current changes 35 to 40 DPA with troops out, the goal is to prevent getting double tap thats all:)

Once again, please consider joining my kd. we are WAR hunger last age 5/5 then the one before was 6/5 wins. We aiming for more than 7 wars this age:)

[Dolgil]

oop is more about absolute numbers than dpa. Figure what a 500 acre could produce in offense and no defense. Have greater than that.

Really, it depends on what your kd is doing. If you want to come out attacking, many do not explore at all. They do plunders to ramp up elites and science on the assumption that the smaller pumped province is better than the large unpumped one even at similar net worth.

Best advice to give you. Do NOT come oop without some offense. The small suiciders will eat you alive unless you get large and have a great deal of net worth. Even then, many will catch up to you before you can get the dpa later on in the game.

Pure explorers in protection and early age do not fare very well at all.

[mofatty]

hmmmm, i see.

i'm playing a DE.
Pure Mage. only enough thieves to keep out pests

was thinking 450, 500, 525 or even 550 acres.

i threw together a 500 acres strat but was thinking that 450 is a better choice.

Now im reconcidering to 550. but i don't plan on attacking at all.

[bigboywasim]

Pure anything does not work anymore. It is all about hybrids, A/T and A/M.

[mofatty]

really?

could u explain in more detail?

[bigboywasim]

25 Hybrids

25 * 2 = 50 attacks per day in war

If you are running warrior/rax strat then

25 * 3 = 75 attacks per day in war.

This is not counting the double taps that can be done with proper coordination.

Now you have A/M and A/T

The A/M can do all the strong mage ops while A/T all the weak and intel ops.

The A/T can do all the strong thief ops while A/M all the weak and intel ops.

Pure attackers can get taken down with ops. T/Ms cannot attack.

Pure mages and thieves are obsolete as A/T and A/M can do good enough op damage and still attack.

Basically 25 provinces attack and burn all their stealth and mana in the most efficient way possible in the game right now.

[Mikeland]

20 orcs for me, back ur crap up. Wanna be better than me, well beat me!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigboywasim]

Orcs can be run as pure attackers but people still be trying to run them as A/T to get more out of them.

In general almost the majority of all races run hybrids.

Orc is one of the weakest races currently.

[uzziah]

Gains are based on networth now. It depends on the kingdom but most people try to aim for the following

Non-Gnome

600 acres

3800 offensive specs
1200 defensive specs
600 thieves

Try to get some elites if you are elf mixed with the offense specs

Gnome

600 acres

3500 elites
1200 defensive specs
900 thieves

Plunders OOP

That's an average of 78 soldiers per hour drafted you should be able to do much better than that. Especially with some of the races and Patriotism cast. My first hour of drafting will provide 62 soldiers and my first hour will net me about 350 peasants so hour 2 will net me 66 soldiers by the time my buildings come in I should be drafting 100+ soldiers per hour before pat.

Also yes make sure you have atleast 1 tpa raw at OOP that will save you so much during the first week of the age when everyone is looking for free resources.

[Bishop]

Hey there. I used to play way back in the days of "regency" and up until about age 28. I stopped for a bit and now im back

I'm just curious what is a good acreage to come OOP with?

or

what is a good DPA to come out with

thx

offensive modifiers > defensive ones, therefor many consider that TMs are completely redundant, though they have started to creep back into skds a bit.

for oop its best to come out offense heavy and try for x4 hits - 3 land and a plunder is nice.

1 tpa, 1 d spec an acre, rest offense. 600 is a nice acreage to come out at, but as usual it depends on what the rest of teh kingdom does.

[bigboywasim]

That's an average of 78 soldiers per hour drafted you should be able to do much better than that. Especially with some of the races and Patriotism cast. My first hour of drafting will provide 62 soldiers and my first hour will net me about 350 peasants so hour 2 will net me 66 soldiers by the time my buildings come in I should be drafting 100+ soldiers per hour before pat.

Also yes make sure you have atleast 1 tpa raw at OOP that will save you so much during the first week of the age when everyone is looking for free resources.

Yes top players can get better numbers but this is aim is for most players. Most players do not even have this OOP.

[_greenie]

having <10k defense, and no offense on >800 acres means you will get hit!
thats a basic rule =)

15k off + 5-10k def on 6-700 acres is pretty managable for OOP

[Regecide]

Running 60k off OOP, let's play a game