You can never convince those who have already made up their minds. I rest my case on the above statements.
You can never convince those who have already made up their minds. I rest my case on the above statements.
HELLO! I'm right here! RUDE!!!!! lol
You see there is a left for without it there is no right!
You really got that that rhetoric down!
See soon enough.
See someone admits to being a progressive and the rhetoric goes on. Just keep in mind you can be a conservative progressive also.
You almost have it.
Just when you are thinking the Crazy are wrong about the NEW WORLD ORDER!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/81a03be0-7...44feabdc0.html
Someone goes off and makes a statement like this.
Of course you can disagree with political theories. However, it's difficult to comprehend your argument due to your misuse of the names of many political theories. You may disagree with Communism, but what you're currently purporting to disagree with isn't Communism. I suggested that you read political theory to understand the definitions of these words, because at this point, it's fairly pointless to argue over words that you don't have a concrete understanding of.
I just reject your ideas and terms. Alien as it may be to you it does not diminish my point or message. We continue on this course laid out in the last century we will continue to get the same result, complete failure.
“In a free and republican government, you cannot restrain the voice of the multitude; every man will speak as he thinks, or more properly without thinking.” George Washington
“I consider the people who constitute a society or a nation as the source of all authority in that nation.” Thomas Jefferson
Last edited by Rockie Cantais; 20-06-2010 at 00:41.
How so? The Constitution is to limit government, the Bill of Rights was added to ensure that basic rights were understood and to bring in the last of the hold outs so it could be ratified.
In the case of Obama he won with 3 million votes in the populace vote. I wouldn't say Americans were stupid by that but miss lead by Obama's campaign.
I understand it but are you looking at the way it should work or the way it works in reailty? I understand and by trying to say I don't means that you have yet to step back and look at the bigger picture.
So I went back and looked at these and I tell you from my perspective there is not much difference between Communism, Socialism, Authoritarianism, Imperialism. Democracy is rule by the majority and does not necessary protect the rights of the minority. Representative Republic rule by law to ensure only what government is needed to have functional society with maximum freedom for the individual. Free Enterprise and a moral society is needed for the Republic.
Well, your perspective is very different from mine, my history/philosophy professors and the books I read that touched the subject matter in some way.So I went back and looked at these and I tell you from my perspective there is not much difference between Communism, Socialism, Authoritarianism, Imperialism.
If a majority (or alternatively, the powerful) decides that it wants something badly enough at the detriment of a minority, NOTHING will protect the rights of that minority.Democracy is rule by the majority and does not necessary protect the rights of the minority.
Story of the world, US included.
And how much government is needed and what it should be focusing on to achieve that is open to a lot of debate.ensure only what government is needed to have functional society with maximum freedom for the individual.
Unfortunately for your argument, free enterprise doesn't imply a moral society.Free Enterprise and a moral society is needed for the Republic.
In fact, many individual high in the free enterprise ladder have shown themselves to be individuals of poor moral character.
Thank goodness they are not running for US presidency. I doubt they could widthstand the media scrutiny.
This is as far as I got before I realized this was a joke thread.
Lots of people around the world despise Americans, and the above display of naivety is a great example of why. Do you seriously think that the rest of the world asked you to participate in all those wars? Did anyone come ask you to please go into Iraq? On the contrary, most of the world did not want that to happen unless WMD's were found, and of course they never were. I actually think it's a great thing that Saddam is gone, but I would never be so naive as to believe that you removed him for anything other than self interest. This whole "fighting for freedom" is just bull**** propaganda. The arrogance in thinking your view is right and should be forced upon everybody else is what's making people hate you so much. That you also have no clue about Europe and still use it in your examples all the time just make things worse.
Fighting for the world's freedom? Give me a break. Do you really think the rest of the world can accomplish nothing on their own? Most Europeans are very grateful for the help during the world wars, but again, stop being so naive to believe that the US did it just to be nice. It was in your own self interest to get involved, and it didn't happen until you couldn't refuse. I've got nothing against that behavior at all, it's pragmatic and it makes sense to do what you think is best for your own people. But you really need to get a grip and understand that you're not the messiah helping people out of the goodness of your hearts. The thread starter needs to open his eyes before he tries to flash his political knowledge (which is lacking) and opinions (which are based on narrow mindedness).
No disrespect meant to the US and their armed forces. I'm not a USA hater and am actually grateful for a lot of what you've done. But the kind of arrogance displayed by the thread starter really pisses me off, and let's just say he's not the only one who acts like that.
It's always fun when people spew out things that are so obviously much more suited to be used against themselves than others.
Last edited by Luc; 16-07-2010 at 22:26.
NO not really but it is intended to shock you.
No they did not ask us and a lot of us Americans think we should just let the world blow itself to hell while we sit back and let you! I could care less if you hate or love us! I think its time we pull our troops out of Europe as we pull out of Iraq.
I see I hit the right button!
Like I said, I think we Americans need pull the majortiy of our troops back home and the let the world have at it! Your right about one thing America First!!!
Your too kind!
I make no apology.
Hello, I'm still here!!!
Last edited by Rockie Cantais; 20-08-2010 at 00:26. Reason: spelling as always!
It would actually be fun to watch if you actually did sit back. Fun to see your reaction when your ****ty economy goes from ****ty to catastrophic as you lose control of the oil. You've never been out to save the world, just to keep control of regions where there's something you want, such as oil. Leaving the world be would actually be against your interests, especially now that religion has control of the politics and faith in God is preferred over competence.
And in your naivety you think what your military is doing out in the world is not looking after #1. You'll be terrified when you realize the problems that come with having all the military sitting at home doing nothing, and that you depend as much on the world as it depends on you. Are you aware of how much money China lent you lately? And that money was used to stimulate consumption (of mostly chinese goods, so the money go straight back) and save the retarded banks (there are even socialist countries in Europe who didn't have to do that).I see I hit the right button!
Like I said, I think we Americans need pull the majortiy of our troops back home and the let the world have at it! Your right about one thing America First!!!
Oh, I know. You're just here to make yourself feel better. Ignorance is bliss.Your too kind!
I make no apology.
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