Faery - Nobel magic race that is fragile
Positive
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+20% Honor gain
+50% Honor bonus
New Spell: Summon whisps ( work like tog, summons whisps small amount per Summon ) (all whisps die when sent on attack )
Negative
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+10% Attack time
+15% Combat losses
Military
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1/1 Solds
2/0 Whisps/entity
5/0
0/5
1/7 Elite, 1000gc, 7,5nw
Spellbook
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Fanatism,Fog'
New Class : Dragon Hunter
+ 30% Damages to Dragons
- 50% Negative effects caused by Dragons
Gain honor while attacking Dragons (Formula at your discretion)
Everye 1 gc donated to send a Dragon worth 1.5 gc
Originally Posted by dorkan
Benefits are only useful if you face kingdoms that send dragons in wars (not all kingdoms can), so the benefits aren't all that useful, and definitely aren't as useful as other perc's that use their benefits all the time.
Second, it would be WAY too easy to whore honor with this! All age long, have your allies send dragons at your kingdom, and then slay them! it doesn't matter how small the honor gain will be, the top kingdoms will use it to their advantage!
Looks like A LOT of people would like to see Undead return. Here's my take on what modern undead should offer.
Undead
+15% Population (Undead was always known for massive hoards)
No Food Necessary (Undead don’t eat)
Always effected by “Animate Dead” (like cleric, it just makes sense)
A percentage of Offense Specs return as Leets
Immune to Plague (but doesn’t spread it) keep both the spreading and immunity with orc)
Can’t select Shepherd (to keep their population bonus from being over powered)
-30% Science effectiveness (classic and makes sense)
Off Specs- 5
Def Specs- 5
Leets- 7/7 (vampires)
Special Spell Book (retro spell book for undead)
Warspoils, Nightmares, and Tree of Gold
Last edited by olAllan; 09-12-2010 at 02:03. Reason: Minor tweaks...
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The best Undead race suggestions I've seen so far.. I also would love to see Undead again.Undead
+15% Population (Undead was always known for massive hoards)
No Food Necessary (Undead don’t eat)
Always effected by “Animate Dead” (like cleric, it just makes sense)
A percentage of Offense Specs return as Leets
Immune to Plague (but doesn’t spread it) keep both the spreading and immunity with orc)
Can’t select Shepherd (to keep their population bonus from being over powered)
-30% Science effectiveness (classic and makes sense)
Off Specs- 5
Def Specs- 5
Leets- 7/7 (vampires)
Special Spell Book (retro spell book for undead)
Warspoils, Nightmares, and Tree of Gold
Hmm I think +15% pop, no food required, permanent AD as well as some of those becoming elites and a 7/7 elite would just make this race over powered before you even get to the personality limitation suggestion. You wouldn't even need a shep personality for this race. Add Warrior or Tactician and half the server will be filled with Undead...which it would be anyway just for nostalgia.
The No Shep and -30% Sci don't quite balance that. To really balance them you would need to nerf the economy and the Elite a bit IMO maybe -1 to the def spec too.
Last edited by Lazar85; 09-12-2010 at 05:14.
These are some interesting suggestions. I think an off the cuff "fix bugs and glitches" obviously needs the detail attached but it's clear that Kisame was more about the racial/personality changes. The idea of merging Avian with Dwarf is kind of cool and different. I like the idea of the untrainable elite for Undead - makes for an interesting strategy change mid - late age.
Buff Avians with enhanced Ambush.
Takes 75% land from non-warrior, 50% from warrior.
Works nice as a boost that is actually more unique.
I like this.
I think a 7/7 elite for undead is a little overpowered. I think it would need to be 8/4 or 9/3.
I also never liked the o specs turning into elite thing. Maybe enemies troops turn to elites like taking prisoners?
I think a good drawback could be -10 or -15% attack times. It could be countered with barracks or warrior class.
Where are the changes for the next age posted?
Yes, they would benefit from their bonuses only during one situation, wich is a "Dragon attack", and it would be a sacrifice in some way because they don't always benefit of their bonuses. But that's the principle of a personnality, it's a choice of orientation, and the Honor Gain might worth it during the small time of uses (and maybe +50% damages instead of +30%).
As for the allied-war-dragon-sending-cheating-thing, I don't play with "allies kingdoms" and having an "allied-war-dragon-sending" seems pretty strange to me... I doubt some kingdoms would really go all "dragon hunters" and use that kind of trick. And if they would, they might be killed in a REAL war since they don't have any other personnality bonuses.
For the Undead proposal. I would add
- "-50% thievery effectivness"
- No access to Dungeons but instead his own troops, 20% of killed troops turned in lites in your army. Valid on any attack including massacre.
I think it should be - no training elites - they will upgrade from spec off in elites in battle. Keep the 7/7 ratio for elites, just make them more difficult to get. Just a thought.
Orcs
Remove plague.
Reduce gains on attack to 25% or 30%.
Give them No Draft Cost.
Extra damage on Massacre Attacks.
Undead
+15% Population
Spreads and immune to plague
War Spoils.
Nightmare when unfriendly.
-40% Thievery effectiveness
Elites 8/4 6.5 NW $800
Dark Elves
Add +15% exploration cost
Elves
Add +1 General
-20% Wages
-50% Elite troop losses
Avians
Add 50% Birth Rates
Add Immunity to Fog (they are in the sky, birds eye view, they can see where to go)
Dwarves
+30% BE
+15% Food consumption
-10% Magic effectiveness
Shepherd
Remove population bonus
Remove BR bonus
Add 3 Elites at home generates 1 bushel per day
Merchant
Add every 15 Elites at home fill one job
Tactician
Remove Draft Cost
Add every 30 elites captures 1 additional prisoner
Mystic
Add every 15 Elites at home generate 1 rune daily
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