Obviously you're not a paying customer here then. Some people however, have paid. Some people have paid a LOT. When someone pays for a service, then that service changes on them, they have every single right to complain. And normally, customer service would attempt to resolve those complaints. I really hate that line "shut up and leave" - people have paid money. It's not their fault if the current plans don't turn a profit.Originally Posted by Gallowmere
Moving along...
I idle in a KD's irc channel who so happens to have a married couple. Only one. In their channel, when the changes first popped out - they were in a pump. I asked them what they felt, and the said "it sorta sucks, since we never xlog for each other, but we don't really have any contact with the same provinces, so I doubt it will really affect us" - exactly what DHaran and Bishop have been saying - their "research" was correct it seems. Most married couples won't experience too big of an issue.............. Today, their KD just got waved. Now it's almost comical to watch the realization that not having any same-province contact for 72 hours is a huge disadvantage to planning their war. I'm watching them pre-war decided what targets the TM isn't allowed to OP and which targets the attacker isn't allowed to attack.
Ok. To play devil's advocate for a quick second, I'll admit that the whitelist gave people the ability to xlog. Yes, this could be an advantage, but.. was it REALLY that BIG of advantage? With the ability to use cell phones, and most KD's idling in irc, and mates texting each other.. MOST of the advantages it would have had 40 ages ago are nil. Sure, they do experience *some slight* advantage, but it's obviously not THAT much, or the Top 10 KD's would each have 2 or 3 or 4 whitelisted couples... The top 100 provinces would be a majority of whitelisted couples... So on and so on.
Now, with this change, and after watching this KD plan their pre-war strategies, its quite obvious that sure - they're going to get around it... but at a *huge* disadvantage. If the TM gathers intel on someone who becomes a chain target 48 hours later, the attacker cant chain. I could go on and on about all the scenarios already discussed 100 times in this thread... but now I'm watching them actually unfold and it's ridiculous the careful planning that has to go into just making sure they can both participate so they're not down another province.
I understand you're trying to eliminate cheating, but the cheating you've eliminated by this wasn't causing a stupid advantage. You're not going to be able to multi GB a province with 2 friggen provinces. And if 3+ accounts shared the same IP. I'd hope that would be investigated rather quickly and shut down before they even got OOP. What's really funny is that it keeps being repeated here that it was unfair because a whitelisted couple could log for each other. Tell me how this change prevents that? They can still log for each other as often as they want. Just don't interact. So it's still an advantage. All that was done is that people can't perform their roles.
And just a little quote from their IRC room, obviously edited for anonymity:
[10:32] <~XXXXXXX> Its not an issue of wether or not I can get intel or MS coverage from another T/M, the issue is that I now can not 'freely' chain targets. Essentially one of my provinces (in this case the halfer) is being hobbled an forced to attack provinces low on the food chain (s**t gains) and is going to be using his 6tpa to steal gold/runes from fearies/elvees instead of NSing our chain targets.
[10:35] <~XXXXXXX> Had I known of this earlier I would have had him come in as an attacker an planned on him staying small just to pick on the lower end of the food chain. I now have to totally revamp his an her strats to accomadate the changes.
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