#2 province grande mucca deleted

[Bishop]

I already did, thank you, and the reason he was deleted was because you randomly decided that already defined rules of "fake war" should include a single province that is growing. Noting that a fake war is between kingdoms and that this single province was punished for being in "not a real war" yet the rest of his kingdom and the other kingdom IS in a "real war." I read what was written, trollfag.

Calling me a troll fag again will result in action.

A fake war is designated as a war that is fake. There is no specification that all provinces in a kingdom need to be involved, nor were uninvolved provinces actioned.

Let me simplify this Bishop. If no NAP was in the forum or in the terms, and the 2 cows were not hitting each but actively participating in the war, what would your course of action had been? Told them to stop FWing? How is that not YOU deciding for THEM who they can and cannot hit? There is no place for that kind of dev interference in Utopia.

If we received a report about such a war being fake, with the details you provided, we would contact the players.

[DHaran]

There is nothing fake about hitting an enemy kingdom you are at war with. The choice of targets is not yours to make Bishop.

[Anri]

In a round about way it is not what happened here.

Lets agree to disagree ;-)

[Palem]

But you said and i quote "You know exactly what happened." I dont, you dont so why are you suddenly changing your story bro? We dont know exactly what happend since we just have parts of the story.

lol why you hating so hard? Would you feel better if I omitted "exactly"? My point was that your ridiculous examples are irrelevant because we know the circumstances.

What happened: Two cows were napped for a war, got deleted.

What didn't happen: 24 provs napped.
Everyone just razing people
ect.

Discuss what happened, not stupid extreme examples.

If a 5 year old kid throws some small stones at you do you get hurt for reals?

It it hits me in the eye, yes it will prolly hurt.

[DHaran]

If we received a report about such a war being fake, with the details you provided, we would contact the players.

So now every war with UBs staring at each other, it should get reported and force them to start trading hits? Otherwise it's a fake war right? Fail. What an outrageous statement.

[FlamingKnights]

Actually im going to stop their... Why dont you give a well written post of what was done wrong here, when you let trollfags war a basically dead kd for weeks upon weeks for practically free growth.

still waiting for this post. Your definition of fake war you just gave is very lol'able.

[Bishop]

There is nothing fake about hitting an enemy kingdom you are at war with. The choice of targets is not yours to make Bishop.

Indeed there is not. Agreeing to have a fake war with someone though is what we call fake.

[DHaran]

You said you'd take action without the proof of agreement, you can't use that as an excuse anymore. Also there was no agreement to have a fake war, they were both in war and actively participating. You have no justification whatsoever for deleting them.

[FlamingKnights]

According to Bishops logic NAP = fake war now.

Thats what im getting out of this anyways.

[Palem]

No. NAP'ing in a war = fake war.

[DHaran]

How do we know Ryan wasn't planning on backstabbing the other guy, and he gets deleted before he could make his move and nail him? There is no in-war CF mechanic. They interfered in diplomacy when no rules were being broken. They decided these provs should have been trading hits, and deleted them for not doing so. How ANYONE can not see a problem with this amazes me.

[FlamingKnights]

Palem the NAP was made prewar. Think of it as war terms. My kd even had a news report done where one of the terms was no dragons.

Edit: Even though my mentioning of dragons really has no relevance its the idea of war terms that im trying to get across which looks like exactly what happened here. It was agreed upon pre-war.

(00:28:43) 02(&Ryan) to find where i offered to war that kd with the terms i wouldnt hit their monarch
(00:28:51) 02(&Ryan) (i cant even break their monarch)
(00:29:12) 02(&Ryan) it's comparable to me sending out war requests and saying i wont send or slay dragons (when the other kd is never in dragon range)

(00:31:38) 11(~Proteus) howd u give/get button
(00:31:50) 02(&Ryan) my kd waved his
(00:31:57) 02(&Ryan) his kd retalled and declared

[Anri]

Redo and make it right! Reinstate Grande Mucca.

Im sry but i really think this was a bit to much. I cant even explain how wrong this is.

Devs need to understand they are wrong. Game suffers badly by this.

Allowing trollfags war and then deleting grande mucca is just pure examples of how things will be future ages.
Not sure i want to be a part of that. Devs totaly lost their minds now?
It would probably favour them to reinstate grande mucca now because i can feel how much player support there is for this.

Not the smartest move to just walk right over the server...
I voiced my oppinion, nothing more can be done.

[Nuriho]

Indeed there is not. Agreeing to have a fake war with someone though is what we call fake.

They agreed to have a real war. "We" call a real war fake though because "We" are trollfag.
And btw, Bi Shoopdawhoop, your name autofilters into trollfag when i type it. probably a condition of the truth =(

[Blaine]

Hi, I'm Golden Maw from the kingdom warring against late grande mucca. Our king Astrael got deleted too. I just wanna let it be known that this war wasn't a fake war. It's still going, thought it seems that we are getting our butts handed to us :D I kinda guessed they had an agreement because they didn't attack each other, but never we got any instructions about it, so it clearly was between those 2 (and i can't find it surprising, no way our king would have taken on that war otherwise).

We all were previously discussing how damned hard it was to find a war. So we lost our biggest member/king because he made a deal that finally allowed us small guys have a decent war. Honestly, I don't care THAT much (I only joined the game few weeks back myself) But Astrael was kinda the driving force that kept our kingdom slightly alive (he helped every newcomer in kingdom chat and had designated forum thread Q&A for newbies). Now that he's gone our ghetto will probably die for good.

Edit:

Don't know if it matters, but both Kings were participating in war fully; they both chained biggest normal sized targets with rest of the kingdom.. I should know, I was mucca's first target :D

Edit2: Actually I lied, we just got a new king voted (finally) and did withdraw from the war.