Simians Vs Sanctuary

[flogger]

Are you using your really deeply chained guys to fireball? It costs them the least runes and they'll likely have the best luck against their big fearies. If they have no defense there's no point in them landlusting.

[flogger]

Also - try this one out. With your small guys (500-1000a guys), try conquesting the two provinces you just chained down (The Tick and the Smurfs). You should get 6% of their land per hit, which should help chain them down deeper AND get you more land than hitting their 500a guys.

You can let their 500a guys go largely unhit for a wave or two since they're on no defense, there's no need to hit them down every wave.

I'm not 100% sure on the CQ gains but its worth a try once to see.

[Anri]

Flogger they greed+fb and help out overall :).

[Anri]

Also - try this one out. With your small guys (500-1000a guys), try conquesting the two provinces you just chained down (The Tick and the Smurfs). You should get 6% of their land per hit, which should help chain them down deeper AND get you more land than hitting their 500a guys.

You can let their 500a guys go largely unhit for a wave or two since they're on no defense, there's no need to hit them down every wave.

I'm not 100% sure on the CQ gains but its worth a try once to see.

It just sucks losing offense with the conquest hits. But maybe we make 1 hit and test it out again. Dont think we tested it on chaintargets yet.
With the variety of wars and opponents this age we got to test most things out. Very interesting age!

[MorbidAngel]

I dont know how OS could possible get acres from Sanc but i heard it happend.
Your performance vs Fury was so weak.

we had no army. activity was good.

[MorbidAngel]

what are total stats so far btw?

[Anri]

what are total stats so far btw?

Ohh i dont know. I keep looking at the starting acres really.

They were 89k and Simians was 85k.

Plus i am a bit lazy and i really dont like to post a summary before our chains on the orcs had more effect. Im sure Dorje is happy to provide while he is up in acres.

[Zyva]

Once they got Negative I am sure he will clam up real fast :) also "KILL ME ALREADY WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!" hahaha Arnold ftw

[jdorje]

I'm not 100% sure on the CQ gains but its worth a try once to see.

We tried OOR conquest earlier this war. Didn't seem effective.

[jdorje]

Why all the angst anri? I've never had or shown any disrespect for simians - on the contrary, as the only top20 kingdom with a longer continual existence than ours, I have quite a bit of respect for you. It makes me laugh for people who have retired or disbanded their kingdoms to make fun of either of us for having an off age every now and then.

Now, as to strategy, I'm a bit limited in my analysis today since my monarchs don't think it's a good idea to keep telling simians how they should go about beating us. Simians continues NM+chaining 1-2 provinces per wave, taking a lot of acres and causing some desertion and such. Pretty impressive strategy, and they're in perfect topfeed range for it so there's not much we can do to prevent it. The downside remains though, that they have to collect armies to do it which means keeping people home for a while - and if they want elves to be involved (I think they abandoned the elves keeping up now) then all their avians have to sit for a while. Meanwhile we keep fireballing their bigs (kandall and peanut are completely useless to the war effort for some days now, and resolving will be shortly), and max-gaining for the most part so that we never keep armies home. After the fireballs to resolving, Simians is back down to 650k peasants today, and under 12M networth for the first time.

Papers really are worthless now, since both sides have tons of pool acres and the amount of land lust from both sides is huge. At hostile start Sanc was 4k acres bigger than simians and (counting our incoming training) 500k networth less. By the time Simians starts their next wave, Sanc will be 16-18k acres bigger and 500k networth more. By the time simians ends their next wave, Sanc will be 5-7k acres bigger and 200k networth more. So while we are "winning" by any objective standard, the war remains quite close. I've told Simians that we'll withdraw if they can get up by 1M networth and I expect them to do the same (otherwise at that point we'll do a max-gains and withdraw ourselves, and just call it a victory - again, it would be really nice if war wins actually meant something, other than that you lost acres on the final wave).

[Anri]

lol your 4 faerys is heavily training. you put a lot of weight on them. every single attacker you got will get chained to pieces. you have my respect dorje but ur losing not winning. we outhit you and chain you so hard right now. you dont stand a chance. you can wd allready since you know you are setup to lose everything except 4 faerys we dun care about. go ahead wd while you still got acres. save face and call it a win.

[Anri]

I know we have the win dorje. you are smart enough to wd while you still got acres. post april thru may summary in 1h for the crowd. lol

[CannaWhoopazz]

it's unfortunate for Simians that they no longer maintain army-in/army-out waves. I would assume the avians have the same rax at the start of the war, but through growth and BE the times have drifted apart?

I don't blame them for trying to get them back inline, but like you said jdorje, i'm not sure it's worth keeping troops at home waiting for time to attack! perhaps after the attack times fall out of sync it's time to start switching to mini-chains, and eventually max gains? The whole point of avian is their lightning attack times and keeping their armies at home to line waves back up is taking away from one of Avian's biggest advantages!

[Anri]

lol post summary of our waves. dorje excuse moi but ur full of crap. check our waves out instead of listening to the propaganda machine of absalom. dorje. i dare you. post summary in 1-2h from now. should not tell people lies. kiss darkwings 6k acres bye bye now. Each 8h 1-2 orcs dies. enjoy

[CannaWhoopazz]

only 4K acres, and it doesn't look like you've already started chaining him since he's only at 114NWPA. If you dropped him by a third in a matter of minutes, he'd be higher than that