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<Bishop> I don't dislike Ezzerland
<Bishop> We are just incompatible
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<~Palem> I read that as "snuffleupegas gropes Palem" twice lol
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hate him if you want but hes right. if we didnt jump into that fight and send our millitary that you hate, you would be speaking russian or german right now. you wouldnt have a luxury to be pissing in a forum saying what ever you want. honestly i think its just envy with you people , dont know why. i think when people like you see something strong you have to try and break it down to your level. fact is if you spent that time doing something productive then you would be better off.sure America has its problems, we have alot of them but we are good at solving them. Americans are probably the hardest working people. we work at it thats why we are so strong. a nation that was born less then 250 years ago became The super power in a short time. we have maintained being the superpower for a long time. why , because we work our @#$@ off thats why. we strive to better our selves while you sit arround and complain
korp if it takes you 14 years to build an opinion of someone then you are slow lol
The irony in all this is that US didnt give a **** until Pearl Harbor when they were forced to attack otherwise they would just kept not giving a ****. The only thing US had going for them is that they were so cut off from Europe and the warzones that they didnt get affected by them and thats why they had a chance to build stronger country.hate him if you want but hes right. if we didnt jump into that fight and send our millitary that you hate, you would be speaking russian or german right now.
As mentioned above, it was just luck. :)Americans are probably the hardest working people. we work at it thats why we are so strong. a nation that was born less then 250 years ago became The super power in a short time. we have maintained being the superpower for a long time. why , because we work our @#$@ off thats why. we strive to better our selves while you sit arround and complain
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Originally Posted by VT2
<Bishop> I don't dislike Ezzerland
<Bishop> We are just incompatible
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<~Palem> I read that as "snuffleupegas gropes Palem" twice lol
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yah we didnt want to get involved you brought it on yourselves. eropean commanders had such arrogance towards american fighter in ww1 that they wanted us commanded by thier commanders. so we attacked a german fortress and took it something the eropean command couldnt do. they then finaly figured we were good enough to lead our selves. we sent alot of men to thier deaths for you in trench warfare whitch must be the closest thing to hell. in the end you gave us a weak roll in the league of nations, so we opted out.
hitler comes to power and you sit on your hands while hes attacking people. when it reached england we stepped in even though most of the country didnt want to war because you brought it on yourselves. we still suplied england with countless weapons even sent our own pilots there to get drunk and oops i left my fighter or bomber there.is soon as england asked we had american pilots fighting under english colors. not to mention we were aiding them with our navy the whole time. wasnt til the japanese bombe us that the whole country wanted war. oh yah they bombed us because we cut them off from oil to help china.
we never had a chance to help the french much they fell in 46 days. have any idea how long it would take to deploy a force large enough to hold back the germans back then. we sent over 400,000 kids to thier deaths for you ingrates
Please stop making the rest of us look bad....
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WWII isn't the slightest bit relevant now. Why is it even being discussed? The US had hugely closer ties to euroland, ties which are not as strong now. WWII was also widely considered to be a fight against a clear aggressor - unlike some current conflicts. Selective memory is just dumb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_...a_and_Nagasaki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate_...a_and_Nagasaki
not a lot to be proud of there.
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Waterford wasn't a city when the Vikings came.... The Vikings arrived, made a longport for their ships and gradually built out their base to be a city. Vikings MADE Waterford. But I am open-minded, do you have some sources perhaps? Because my professors and other authors don't know about those sources. :)
You aren't exactly making your fellow Americans proud here, with all your ramblings, your penis-contest and your foul language and poor debating techniques.
And you don't know sh*t about Special Forces anywhere, judging by your comments. SF definitively use bigger hand guns, for the right situations. I sense you're scared that my penis is larger than your penis and perhaps it is. As I said, a good soldier can use his brain as well as his body, not to mention he isn't arrogant. You fail hard there.
I've been building scaffolds on an oil rig for 12 hours today, does that threaten your manhood compared to mine? Last weekend I wrestled a big guy down(we were 2 v 1 ^^) and put handcuffs on his arse and handed him to the police when I was at work as chief of security at a bar/club. Does that threaten your manhood compared to mine?
I was a Kung Fu instructor when I was a bit younger. Does that threaten your manhood compared to mine?
(To others reading the above, please disregard the above paragraphs as I don't post crap like that on forums nor do I act like an idiot and brag in rl.)
And you brag about being a prison guard? That's the lowest of the low, man... Requirements: 2 hands and 2 legs + a head with or without a brain.
This is no bloody contest. I don't care how much you could have killed someone if you wanted. I don't care how cool, big and strong you think you are. This is no bloody testosteron contest and if it was, you would quickly find out, as you have now, that other people have also got testosteron. And maybe, just maybe, when you're older, you will think back to this thread and realise how rediculously stupid you acted.
Every country in the world has flaws and we should all be able to discuss those flaws in order to improve. (Yes, the US has flaws as well)
Btw, War is easy for us to long for, but the one who praises war doesn't know war.
I'm coming anyways, the US is a great country in many ways.
Also, I have said my appreciation of the USA assuring MY freedom many times.
You sound Upper Middleclass and go to university because you come from a decent family who raised you well and pay for your education. But what about those with 2-3 jobs? They depend on scholarships, as you mention, and the vast majority won't get a scholarship, nor a chance.
Vikings were definitively a warrior culture. Their goal in life was to die in combat with sword in hand in order to go to Valhalla. Anyone dying in their bed of old age would NOT go to Valhalla. Children were trained from young age, the warrior was worshipped. But they were also peasants and merchants and yes, Vikings never liked defeat and thus rarely fought battles they would probably lose or lose to many men in.
Sparta is another warrior culture, the ultimate one.
Why don't you do some research next time you make claims? You're talking to someone who's studied this.
Vikings plundered Paris three times.... Vikings plundered/took London, York, Bilbao, Pisa, Nantes, Rennes, Bordeaux and EVERY french city worth mentioning. Vikings FOUNDED Russia, held Britanny and Normandy(look the names up on a map to see where, big regions), held most of England, FOUNDED Dublin, Waterford, Limerick, attacked Budapest(Constantinopel) but that city proved too strong and they rather joined the Byzantine empire.
Vikings plundered all of France, England, Ireland, Scotland, Russia, parts of Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Marocco, Turkey, turkemenistan, Kazakstan, etc, etc, etc ,etc. Vikings made realms/kingdoms in parts of France, Ireland, Scotland, England, Russia, Iceland and Ukraine.
The Vikings who reached America were Norwegians who had moved to Greenland. On Greenland only a few thousand vikings settled and therefore only few ships went to America and they gave up after fighting the natives.
Raiders and plunderers and not more? Not true. Read some history before you make claims.
Btw, Mesopotamia was never an empire nor a country. It's just a region were cities like Ur and Babylon were located.
America also brought tyranny and opression to third world countries. Know your history, the US threw down many democratically elected governments to put dictators on their thrones. Since 1970, self-interests have decided who to invade or who to support, not anyone's freedom.
Hahaha, so damn right. :) If the debate is long enough, it will happen!
Agronaut, here's a challenge for you:
- Is there NOTHING wrong with your country? Is everything perfect? Are you the blind follower?
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It ended the war for Japan. Nothing about it was something to be proud of, but to claim it didn't end the war is naive. All the stuff about air supremacy and the bombs being militaristically unnecessary may be true (in the long run, but why make it longer), but that's like comparing death by a thousand cuts to a shotgun to the face.
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Is there a threshold where infant death is acceptable in war? How many would have died in the ensuing invasion or continued bombing of Japan? How many more US troops would have died? How many more Japanese troops would have died? Would there have been another attack on US soil? Perhaps a civilian target? I'm not saying one way or another what the "right" thing to do was, but when facing an enemy who refuses to surrender, why take a course of action that extends the war and puts your own people at further risk?
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