Ask Realest Returns

[the great kN herself]

Well, considering you are count, and I am merely viscount, and we have comprable stats, I can honestly say I feel in no way inferior. Once count is reached within two days, I will be able to pass you. But then again, any schmuck can play tm, right?

right.

[Realest]

Its interesting that you refuse to believe but its fine. Not that you care what some random player in a ghetto has for stats, but I shall back it up because that's who I am. I'm not a fan of unfounded stories. As viscount, only 25 acres smaller than you, I have 26tpa, 16wpa, 111dpa at 59% draft and 93% BE. My dpa is low only because I have 4k def specs for dragon killing. Also, I have just over 2mil books. So once I hit count, and can run 56% draft at the same stats, I will be pretty much the same.

I hope you understand the difference between 93% BE and 105 BE is quite substantial and the difference of 10 dpa is just as important? Anyone can push their province to the brink and have very high per acre numbers. However, I should also note I netchange 80K gc per acre on active sci. Those are some indicators of province health.

Note that I'm not belittling you. I'm just pointing out to you how nonsensical this comparison is. Your role to your kd and my role in my kd are vastly different.

[marve]

none of your provs have 70~% my science so i don't know how you can get "comparable" numbers to mine.

let's verify your claim

I have 3.6 raw wpa

I have 130% channeling science
I am a count for +15 %
I am faery for +50
I can cast mage's fury for +20

That gives me approx 17 mod wpa

I have 4 raw tpa

I have 105% crime science
I am a count for +15
I am faery for +50
I can cast invis for + 10
I have TDs for +42

That gives me 22 mod tpa.


I have enough science to give me +23% BE efficiency so my BE is a healthy 105% while on 54% draft. This allows me to run 12 elites per acres and 1.5 dspa (dragon slaying) for 103.5 dpa raw. I have 10% forts giving me about +12% def and I can cast MP for another 5%. Obviously I am on 200 PR for another 7.6% boost.

This gives me 125 mod dpa whlie maintaining 9.5 peons per acre.




Now, please explain to me, how with inferior science, you are able to claim you have comparable numbers to me?

i guess since its you ill reply. i wasnt counting mages fury btw, since i rarely need to use it, nor was i counting invisibility.

i have 3.9 wpa
i have 161% sci
i have the +50%
i have 9% for viscount
and add in the 20% for mages fury

thats 20 mod wpa

i have 4.9 tpa
i have 152% channeling
i have 50% for faery
i have tds for 27%
i have viscount for 9%
i have invis for 10%

thats 28 tpa

i have +27% to BE and over 16% to pop.

unfortunately i do not have the luxury of running 12 leets per acre, since im running 3 specs per acre which means 9 leets per acre. the specs are for dragon slaying. so raw dpa i am at 100 (including 200% PR) raw plus tw and gp.

so your defense and BE are higher, largely due to the fact that you are running more leets per acre than me, but thats it. so at viscount, without the bonus increase for count, my tpa and wpa are far beyond yours. so im curious how you know how much sci my kd has. and run the numbers for yourself. once count is reached, i will pass you as i can drop my draft rate down and shoot over 100% BE and still maintain a higher wpa and tpa with a dpa that is near yours.

[marve]

I hope you understand the difference between 93% BE and 105 BE is quite substantial and the difference of 10 dpa is just as important? Anyone can push their province to the brink and have very high per acre numbers. However, I should also note I netchange 80K gc per acre on active sci. Those are some indicators of province health.

Note that I'm not belittling you. I'm just pointing out to you how nonsensical this comparison is. Your role to your kd and my role in my kd are vastly different.

the comparison is not as nonsensical as you are saying. but i do feel that this got out of hand. i had no intentions of getting into my stats at all, until your ego kicked in with your reply to my question. so, if youd like, we can leave it at this.

[Realest]

If I didn't want to keep my BE over 100, I can draft higher and watch my BE plummet and at the same time overinflate my acres (im at 210 nwpa as it is). However, I will then have higher per acre numbers than you. So again, what exactly are you comparing? You have 1 extra wpa and tpa than me, apply the mods and I will be just like you but inefficient.

If you want to improve your province, show me your build. However, comparison of _pa is pretty useless, as gergoth and DDodge were telling you.

[marve]

how about this. lets table this conversation for a day or two until i reach count, then we will compare more directly. and idk where you got my sci numbers from, but i think you were off on them a bit.

[Realest]

Do you understand that having more units naturally results in higher per acre stats? If i wanted to win this argument, I'd ramp up my draft to 80% and train it all. Then, the only way you can beat my per acre stat is if you go 85% draft.

[Realest]

and sorry, I thought you were from the Faery Circle, so that's why I said there's no way your science is near mine. You are from another kd, my apologies so it's very possible your science is near mine. However, the premise still stands.

Drafting to a more compressed state should naturally yield better per acre stats. That's not the point. You should be looking for efficiency and sustainability.

[Lord RyeX]

/trolls...

Hope marve joins us soon.
=p

[Smitty87]

Hey realest just need a little help tweaking my prov here's how it looks now

curently i am running In War the following build (i'm UNDEAD A/T)
20% Homes
15% Rax
10% TG's
10% Hospitals
20% TD's
10% Stables
3% towers
2% Dungeons

I still use hospitals as an UD as running a 10 EPA offence i prefer really small losses, it also helps as running a semi suicide strat with small def the hospitals help maintain my def when getting semi chained (this usually limits getting triple tapped after being hit a few times)

With this build atm i have 28PPA

10EPA -
7DPA -
3TPA -
1WPA -
7PPA -

With these numbers i achieve the following final stats

OPA - 122.87 OPA
DPA (Leets Home) - 67 DPA
DPA (leets Out) - 37 DPA
Roughly 8 Modded TPA with sci and 20% TD"S being a Rogue.

being i am Rogue i have no money issues OOW as i can easily steal clsoe to 500-800k a day. I continue to train wizards which lowers my peasants per acre until war but as i said i can easily steal gold.


My question is are the 10% hospitals that beneficial to me or should i be adding in GS's aswell? this goes for TD's also. And is 10 EPA as UD abit overkill? I could easily lower my OPA by growing a little which would enable me to increase me DPA and prevent being dbl tapped by most avians/Humans that we tend to war

Cheers

[Realest]

10 epa is a bit overkill, you would do better with lowering it by 1 and getting more defense.

as for hospitals, it seems kind of redundant with your racial bonus. perhaps you can consider some banks for higher sustainability.

[stickysweets]

Hi Realest, I would just like to ask a question related to smaller-sized provinces. Is the offense from building stables ever more worthwhile than the bonus % bonus given by TG’s. It seems that at lower amounts of offense, the flat bonus of 1 from horses is more than the % mod from TG’s.

Also, how much % stables will you consider to be optimal? Would you bother to make everyone ride a horse? Thank you

[gergnub]

Hi Realest, I would just like to ask a question related to smaller-sized provinces. Is the offense from building stables ever more worthwhile than the bonus % bonus given by TG’s. It seems that at lower amounts of offense, the flat bonus of 1 from horses is more than the % mod from TG’s.

Also, how much % stables will you consider to be optimal? Would you bother to make everyone ride a horse? Thank you

good place to start: http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...nds-or-Stables

[Persain]

10 epa is a bit overkill, you would do better with lowering it by 1 and getting more defense.

as for hospitals, it seems kind of redundant with your racial bonus. perhaps you can consider some banks for higher sustainability.

Is it an issue that he has no guilds?

[Ordray]

Is it an issue that he has no guilds?

Unless he casts no self spells or duration spells on the enemy, then yes.