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    Quote Originally Posted by Godly View Post
    Or sit in fortified / retal war for the entire meter.
    EDIT: Talked to Godly

    Retal war and fort stance are as much of a strategy as withdrawing min-time as Avian in order to steal acres before your opponent can hit you.
    Last edited by Proteus; 04-04-2012 at 18:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    Bishop - Can we get this thread in utopia page? There are some very good posts made by dorje, flogger and realest(to name a few) and many people might get an idea of how long wars or some basic formulas work..
    And you think they are going to read all these sofar 41 full pages? :P

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    No one actually thinks you are any good and doesn't care what you have to say.
    That doesnt seem to stop you either so why should he stop? :)

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    someone start a proteus vs godly thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    someone start a proteus vs godly thread?
    Someone start a proteus vs godly server. Give them each their own kingdom with control of 25 provs, forced CF until a certain time. Fill the server with NPC kingdoms for them to feed on and then they must war each other at the end of the age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post

    Our province of Ducktales really bamboozled their chainees. After taking something like 1,000 hits on land def and quad-tapping to stay alive, he held armies for 8 hours while he trained up 4k dspecs. His next hit left him unbreakable, and falcon and elf had nobody to hit.
    Oh noes, Sanc activated a trap card! But Simians can still win if they believe in the heart of the cards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vball23 View Post
    Someone start a proteus vs godly server. Give them each their own kingdom with control of 25 provs, forced CF until a certain time. Fill the server with NPC kingdoms for them to feed on and then they must war each other at the end of the age.
    The server will explode due to overwhelming egos of proteus^25 and godly^25.

    on a serious note, i seem to rmb either kd will wd when the other kd leads by 1mil in nw?

    Simians: Total Networth 13,080,962gc
    Sanc: Total Networth 13,844,195gc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proteus View Post
    Please stop posting you are irrelevant. You won 1 prov crown in an age where the server was at awar.
    I take it you never heard of Shadowlight? There's a slight difference between building a kingdom to be the 2nd best of its era with many #1's and joining one. Only a few have been able to do the former.

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    4 provs in Simians appear to be out of targets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    The server will explode due to overwhelming egos of proteus^25 and godly^25.

    on a serious note, i seem to rmb either kd will wd when the other kd leads by 1mil in nw?

    Simians: Total Networth 13,080,962gc
    Sanc: Total Networth 13,844,195gc
    anri is too proud to wd. i can bet 500k gc for this dude.

    All Hail Thee King!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macros View Post
    The only conclusion I can draw thus far is that both sides are royally screwed going forward. Long wars wreak havoc on trade balances, and in simians case, WPA.
    I don't think so, actually.

    Most wars quickly end up with one kingdom growing provinces out of range. As war drags the fight can be kept even for a while but they keep growing and growing. Unless their economy is stopped, their gains increase and increase and the outcome is already determined even though war may drag for a while. We saw this in simians vs fratzia, and in most other week-long wars. Even one untouchable province is enough to win a close war.

    The reason this war has been so even for so long is simple: it's a stalemate at the top. Both sides big provinces are growing and growing and unable to substantially harm each other. One side fireballs, the other side kidnaps back (btw fireballing faeries who have 6 raw tpa and provinces in range with 100k+ peasants = fail). Both sides contain the others' bigs somewhat, but the bigs continue to grow at more or less the same pace, while all the core shrinks or stays about the same size. Sanc may be winning the battle of the smalls and this may eventually lead to winning the battle of the core, but if the bigs can't be contained it is going to remain a stalemate. Simians has repeatedly said "sanc is only growing their faeries whom we don't care about", but the same is true of simians: they are only growing about 6 provinces, while the rest are in worse and worse shape.

    And for this same reason, neither kingdom is screwed after war. Both have big provinces, untouchable by most other kingdoms that might vulture, with great economy. Most of these bigs have wiz/thief defensive bonuses. Flogger sees this; it's why he's worried for his own kingdom (bio) and encouraging simians to do anything possible to slow our faeries growth. But he should be equally worried about simians, who poses just as much of a threat to his kingdom later in the age.

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    flogger is in BiO???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDodge View Post
    flogger is in BiO???
    Indeed. Of course we need this war to end soon if we're going to catch up to them! You know how much we like warring flogger.

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    perhaps a mutual peace should be brokered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDodge View Post
    perhaps a mutual peace should be brokered?
    All this only for both to lose? Pfft!!
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