What're the caps for each science? I was told there are a couple caps, like even though it says you have a certain amount of %, you actually only gaina certain amount. Anyone able to tell me what the caps are for income, tools, population, and combat science?
There are no hard caps in science. The person who told you this may have meant that at very high levels extra books have marginal effects, which in practice might look like a hard cap.
To give an example, income science works as follows (no libraries and a non-sage, non-ud prov)
100 bpa - sqrt(100)*1.4 = 14%
200 bpa - sqrt(200)*1.4 = 19.8% --> 5.8% boost
500 bpa - sqrt(500)*1.4 = 31.3%
600 bpa - sqrt(600)*1.4 = 34.3% --> 3% boost
1000 bpa - sqrt(1000)*1.4 = 44.3%
1100 bpa - sqrt(1100)*1.4 = 46.4% --> 2.1% boost
2000 bpa - sqrt(2000)*1.4 = 62.6%
2100 bpa - sqrt(2100)*1.4 = 64.2% --> 1.6% boost
The effect of an extra 100 bpa steadily decreases as your bpa increases.
cool thanks, cause last age i was sage and by end of the age, i had a good 50.2% gains in combat in science, and they were telling me that it was completely useless because it caps before that. I had never heard of that before so I just wanted to check it out so i know what to base my science on this age.
Don't forget the added networth from the books. There come points where extra books will simply add too much networth with little extra effects....
Oh, now that's a different thing! There is indeed a hard cap on gains. For example, you can at most take 20% of your target's land (or a piece equal to 20% of your own land, whichever is smaller). The higher your gains sci is, the easier it becomes to hit this cap in gains, after which any more points in gains sci are indeed useless.
Again, to give an example, assume you have a non-orc prov at 1k acres hitting a prov at 1k acres with the same nw in a similar-sized kd that does not have gs, and your kd's stance is normal.
Your gains would be 12% of his land, or 120a. The 20% cap means that the most you could gain is 200a. 200/120=1.67, which means that you would need 67% gains sci to hit the cap. If you had 68% gains sci, you wouldnot gain any more, and the points you use to go from 67%-68% would be wasted. The situation becomes even more pronounced when hitting from agg or in war when gains are higher, or if you're hitting a particularly fat prov. Say you found a target at 1500 acres but still the same nw, now you would only need 200/180=1.11 --> 11% gains sci to hit the cap.
ahhh thanks for clearing that up simkin. that makes sense. I just joined back in not long ago after about a 5 year break lol. So i'm still relearning all of this stuff :D
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