Simians Vs Sanc, HoH or Rage

[Elit]

pinkghetto thread, derail to abs vs dreams thread. Every thread u derail it to abs vs dreams, get a bloody life and smell some roses you bigot. U're like a broken down robot.

You can blame for it Proteus. He come in this treat and make his high moral post how ABS never doing "bad" things and remind us about how BIO doubled rage in past but they still didn't punish them for it.
Now Situation Simians, HoH and Sanctuary is very similar to what happend few ages ago just roles are different. Now for Sanctuary to make what BIO did is legit but its was crime for BIO.

You cant disprove my statements, like how you can't stop talking about about your abs crush. Just plead with dorje to accept you already and get it over with.

I have noting vs Dorje or sanctuary. Dont mind to play with him too, if age is going to be dice only, but i really hate when Prtoteus or ASF come and start spear lies and accuse people for something what never happen.

[Proteus]

You can blame for it Proteus. He come in this treat and make his high moral post how ABS never doing "bad" things and remind us about how BIO doubled rage in past but they still didn't punish them for it.
Now Situation Simians, HoH and Sanctuary is very similar to what happend few ages ago just roles are different. Now for Sanctuary to make what BIO did is legit but its was crime for BIO.



I have noting vs Dorje or sanctuary. Dont mind to play with him too, if age is going to be dice only, but i really hate when Prtoteus or ASF come and start spear lies and accuse people for something what never happen.

Baka already admitted he intentionally doubled us, go do a search for it in the forums. You do not speak for BIO so there is no point in lying when he came clean ages ago. I considered payback complete when I served notice before they fought HOH this age and vultured them afterwards. The issue is dead to everyone but you. No one cares about Dreams and majority of players including the top haven't even heard about it. No one cares. Stop polluting threads with your propaganda.

[Elit]

Ok Proteus. Lets see your/abs view next time when same what is doing atm Sanctuary happen to them or rage. Are its going to be perfect legit or its will be dirty play.

[MrC-TheAncients]

Simians vs Sanc, HoH or Rage <--- Pls stay on topic <3

[jamin]

Simians vs Sanc, HoH or Rage <--- Pls stay on topic <3

More specifically HoH vs Simians.

[Elit]

More specifically HoH vs Simians.

Good start can be war paper summary for now.

[jdorje]

Waving hoh into fortified was just about the dumbest possible move even if Sanctuary hadn't been involved. HoH has the best setup versus simians (aside from the bank issue), they were pumped, and simians handed them 10k acres by initiating into fort. So I have to agree with flogger...the big winner here is hoh.

Whether hoh can gain enough to pass rage (they were already 10k behind, and will lose another 15k to dicing during wartime most likely) remains to be seen.

[Elit]

Waving hoh into fortified was just about the dumbest possible move even if Sanctuary hadn't been involved. HoH has the best setup versus simians (aside from the bank issue), they were pumped, and simians handed them 10k acres by initiating into fort. So I have to agree with flogger...the big winner here is hoh.

Whether hoh can gain enough to pass rage (they were already 10k behind, and will lose another 15k to dicing during wartime most likely) remains to be seen.

Agree Simians made much mistakes, but its first age for them to be so big and hight on chart. So don't blame them so hard for being so n00b.

[wartague]

Thats not even trolling. Thats just a waste of letters.. If you want to troll, step it up pls...

<3

Don't worry if I wanted to troll you would know by now. Besides just cause you don't like the truth it doesn't make it trolling.
And no it seems you do not understand. HaLL was never a part of Absalom and will never be. But since I'm in a good mood, I shall not bad mouth you simply cause you have no clue what happens behind the scene or for talking about stuff no knowledge of what so ever.

[goodz]

why is sanctuary also tagged vs simians?

[Ezzerland]

imho, you guys are looking at this all wrong..

Just to clarify.

* Starting a dragon did not make us hostile with them. It was a hint we intended to fight them, though.
* Breaking cf and sending a dragon also did not make us hostile with them. This was an even bigger hint though.
* Hitting their cow, also did not make us hostile. By this time I hope the hint was pretty clear.
* Telling them that they noticed us and we intended to wave them as soon as they left fortified, was pretty clear. At this point they should certainly know not to start waving another kingdom.
* After they left fortified and did seven (7) hits on hoh, we began our wave, as I told them we would. At this point you would think that they'd start planning to fight us. Continuing and giving hoh the button while in the process of being waved by another kingdom that had told them an hour ago of an intention to wave as soon as they left fortified...well, it boggles the mind really.

I stopped reading the thread at this point. Jdorje and ASF should both know I think quite well of the two of you. I even publicly have said many times that I think you are two of the most respected players in the game. But this is a joke.
So, you have said in this thread that everything you have done to simians is NOT a hostile (prior to your wave). You then acknowledge that Simians took HoH hostile while you were NOT hostile with them. And then you proudly announce that you went ahead and waved them KNOWING that they were hostile with HoH. Yes, that is lame. There is no point in defending yourself that it was not lame. You can mudsling simians and say they were dodging you, but you cannot say your action was not lame. Crying that giving a notice is lame is also lame. Rage worked out a new CF, why didn't you? Because you wanted to fight, you say? Oh, then shut up about it being lame, you wanted this. And judging by the war declaration, so did HoH. Or maybe they thought with the help of their allies they would finally have a chance to win a war! Whoo! GO HOH!

Actually, this isn't the issue. The issue is that the rules of the game do not offer any protection in a "hostile". Many top kingdoms have agreed that fair 1v1 fights are most fun and thus have generally avoided gangbangs, intentional 2v1's etc. Trying to use this generosity as a method to run from a fair 1v1 fight by quickly picking a different fight after getting a dragon and a cow hit and a notice of intention to full wave is an abuse. The desire for fair 1v1 play was always intended to stop kingdoms from teaming up to take down one kingdom, but was never intended ot be a means for a kingdom to escape fights that were being initiated.

Ah, of course it's an issue with a game mechanic! No, but nice try. The problem is in the ladder half of this here. The desire for 1v1 "fair" play is exactly the cause of this. Because no one wants to log in to see 3+ kingdoms just waved them in the same hour. And since there is this whole "what goes around comes around" thing, and one GB instigates another and age after age of spite and anger and chaos. This spite and Anger and Chaos, realistically, is what made this game fun, though, wasn't it?

"Trying to use this generosity to run..." Woah woah woah.. So this IS about calling dibs. It was Sancs fight! Right? You also mentioned something about finishing waves. Sanc did not finish a wave, like you continuously talk about. No, they STARTED one after simians hit HoH. Jdorje clearly stated this in my quote above. You see, there is a difference. Now, I don't know/don't care about prot's kingdom and what they did, but if you're going to use it, the situations should be identical right? Now, they might defend you against him, as a single person, if you are in fact right and the situations are identical, but, what about the rest of utopia? I know.. you don't care.



Now, my actual thoughts on the situation?:
Regardless of how you spin it, Sancs WAVE was lame (not the rest of their actions). That will instigate many more similar situations just like it next age. Now, I know I just sat here and said it was lame lame lame, blah blah blah, but don't mistake this as outright insults. I would insult you defending yourselves as not being lame because simians was even more lame. Both actions were lame. But, both actions were also strategically in the best interest of both sides, and have created some actual fun in this game again. Argue about that all you want. The actions were risky, and strategically smart. Lame, but smart.

I'm wrong? Oh, ok, let's see your next spin then.

[Palem]

Why bother Ezzer?
You're not going to convince Sanc they did anything wrong. Even if you did, they would never admit it.

While my head is poked in here, why are Sanc tagged hostile if they didn't hostile Simians?

[sexual harassment panda]

Sanc isn't hostile they are just claiming dibs on the monkeys.

[Ezzerland]

Why bother Ezzer?
You're not going to convince Sanc they did anything wrong. Even if you did, they would never admit it.

While my head is poked in here, why are Sanc tagged hostile if they didn't hostile Simians?

They didn't do anything wrong. They did something that was strategically smart + beneficial, but lame. Personally, I'm glad they did what they did. Maybe game will be fun again.

And they are still tagged because they still plan to fight simians once HoH is done.

[Palem]

Lame, wrong, call it what you want. I still don't see how Sanc notices us, we op them, and we're the bad guys. But Simians notices the three, Sanc explicitly waits for Simians to launch 7 hits into HoH, then starts bank hits, sends a dragon and somehow they think they're a bunch of saints.

And no. Sanc is fake tagged. They aren't fighting Simians. They're perfectly open for hits for anyone that would want to.