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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post
    The one thing I don't get is when anri says "our age was over the minute sanc waved us (as we were giving hoh the button)"...since I had told you an hour earlier we were going to wave you, that means you chose to end your age? Or did you think it was over already and just wanted to have something to complain about?

    The one thing I want to know is why we could wave into fortified and you could not. If you really wanted to war us, then you could have made 8 hits to make it hostile and give us the button. If I were in your position, with the 2 pumped banks ready to eat up our 1 bank, I would have extended such an olive branch to prove that I was ready for war. You only wanted to hit us after our armies were out, knowing it would be free land. How honorable.
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    You just answered your own question. This way the acres were free. It isn't profitable to war unless a kingdom completely rolls over dead.
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    Your warring kingdom logic and notions of bravery don't come into play up here. You simply need to make the right decisions at the right times to win.
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    TFT's goal was to stall simians which they successfully did as they were dicing away at #1. They could not care less about losing a couple wars when there overall goal was met and exceeded expectations. I was somewhat disappointed Simians took the bait and fell for this trap but oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    The one thing I want to know is why we could wave into fortified and you could not. If you really wanted to war us, then you could have made 8 hits to make it hostile and give us the button. If I were in your position, with the 2 pumped banks ready to eat up our 1 bank, I would have extended such an olive branch to prove that I was ready for war. You only wanted to hit us after our armies were out, knowing it would be free land. How honorable.
    Chuck, I told you we were going to wave you once you left fortified, before you made your first hit; the claim that we only wanted to take some free acres after you sent out is completely and provably false. We chose not to wave into fortified because (unlike you apparently) we don't like losing tons of acres. In hindsight the 100k acres we would have farmed in war would more than have made up for that, but how was I to know that you guys wouldn't even fight back once it got to war?

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    I'm disappointed they thought they were warring an actual kingdom :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post
    Chuck, I told you we were going to wave you once you left fortified, before you made your first hit; the claim that we only wanted to take some free acres after you sent out is completely and provably false. We chose not to wave into fortified because (unlike you apparently) we don't like losing tons of acres. In hindsight the 100k acres we would have farmed in war would more than have made up for that, but how was I to know that you guys wouldn't even fight back once it got to war?
    I don't really agree with this seemingly new train of thought that came up last age of "we're calling dibs by saying we're hitting you no matter what you do." While one could say Simians asked for this more than say Inso did last age, Inso noticing someone and then someone noticing them afterwards and then saying "we're hitting regardless" is really nothing more than a powerplay. I imagine had we not won the age I would have felt we got ****played pretty hard, so I can understand anri's frustrations.

    While one could argue Simians asked for it because they noticed multiple kingdoms at once, one could say you asked for getting noticed by multiple at once by not staggering your ceasefires. Things get tricky if all the action would have happenned in a few minutes or few seconds, but per the paper and the logs it looks as if you had more than enough time to make more than 1 hit.

    Making 8 hits into fortified isn't the end of the world, especially given your longstanding statement of how bad of a setup they had compared to yours. This seemingly could have easily been resolved with a more clear cut case of just giving em 8 hits if you wanted them.
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    It'd be cool if one day some decent and mature kd's started competing against ABS, instead of the ones going at it nowadays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luc View Post
    It'd be cool if one day some decent and mature kd's started competing against ABS, instead of the ones going at it nowadays
    Sure. Now its not interest at all. I don't see how win age this age or being top 3 is impressive if you had very weak and almost zero competition.
    Simians failed but its his first try in top land chart. Its normal to make mistake but if they learn from them its not fatal. For Begin, Anri its dont mater if you are not ally with BIO and rest. You need to coordinate your CFs more or less with them. Giving BIO and Rage CF yr9 to can get his "fair fight" was big mistake. Nor Bio or Simians got fair play. You ended power-played . Don't mean rest 3 kds are wrong there. Its was non abs kds mistake for not plan better his CFs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post
    Chuck, I told you we were going to wave you once you left fortified, before you made your first hit; the claim that we only wanted to take some free acres after you sent out is completely and provably false. We chose not to wave into fortified because (unlike you apparently) we don't like losing tons of acres. In hindsight the 100k acres we would have farmed in war would more than have made up for that, but how was I to know that you guys wouldn't even fight back once it got to war?
    Because some kingdoms (Sanctuary) just don't have the balls to make the initial hostility move, others have to do it for them. This isn't the first time you do this :)
    What Simians did was dumb in my eyes, but that does not justify your wave into a hostile. Looking at the paper you had plenty of time to hit, but you didn't dare to hit untill they sent out and HoH declared shortly after.

    The question however is, what would have happened if Simians had only noticed one? Im pretty sure either Sanc or Rage (more likely Sanc though) would have noticed Simians 1 hour before hostilities started.
    Sure, Sanc will claim not to have noticed them because they offered Simians to re-CF so they could fight HoH (according to ASF).. but we know that's easy to say from the current perspective.


    If HoH keeps gaining acres they'll pass Rage by quite a bit. Looks like Sanc's double may have ruined Rage chances on a crown? I wonder who's going to be angry at who after this war lol

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    the best scenario next age is that flogger consulting bio then simians should hire elit
    this way we can see both bio and simians in top chart competiting with abs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinful View Post
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

    All bark and no bite, that's what Simians is.
    What a waste of letters. Who would have fun in the top if it wasn't for Simians or BiO ?
    They are probably the 2 most active kds on the server - Simians may have butched it on their EoA move now, but you can't take away their activity/skills. Thats hardly what i would refer to as all bark and no bite. Get real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinful View Post
    I'm just a neutral that is enjoying watching Simians getting destroyed after talking ****.
    sinful, wtf?

    Stfu already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Pete View Post
    I enjoy having kingdoms like Simians and BiO up top , It makes things interesting. I hope that next age Simians is right up there in top 5 with BiO. HoH is always getting mixed up with Absalom due to cf with them and probably always will which is unfortunate. We enjoy wars against good competition, as far as I know the age isn't over and anything can happen.

    We have warred the 2 kingdoms that last age beat the bejeezus out of us trying to get some respect back from the community and ourselves. We have gotten the respect back for ouselves, I hope that we have gained it back from the community.

    I wish all of this Sanctuary/Absalom had never happened and we would have had a 1 vs 1 fight, it didn't pan out that way tho. We did the best we could in a bad situation and warred. I don't think belittling good competition does not help make the game better, i do
    Like a little smack talk from time to time like a lot here. But there is a time and a place for that, and this is neither.

    Kudos to Anri and Simians for making the game interesting and rolling the dice taking a chance on #1 rather then becoming complacent in 2-3 spot doing whatever he could to give his kingdom the best chance he could for his kingdom. Like I say the age is not over and it might be an uphill fight but I hope they do continue to try for thier crown and wish them luck regardless of the outcome of this war. As far as I'm concerned we have won, winning for us is respect NOT crowns.
    Well said CP. Altho, about the HoH getting mixed up with Abs <-- that shizzle will happen 24/7 until you start fighting em i guess. Let abs be abs, and you run your kd independantly, then things will get interesting real fast :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post
    The one thing I don't get is when anri says "our age was over the minute sanc waved us (as we were giving hoh the button)"...since I had told you an hour earlier we were going to wave you, that means you chose to end your age? Or did you think it was over already and just wanted to have something to complain about?
    give it up dorje. No matter what they'll still come up with excuses. Heck if abs did a powerplay move like this i bet you'll have some dirty **** pulled on you next age already.

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