There is a distinction between helping an ally run a war for their benefit and using an ally for your benefit. I have no problem with the former, but you admitted to the latter which I find "lame".Originally Posted by flogger
I am surprised about this suggestion that we "screwed over OS"? They never actually negotiated a confirmed cf deal with Abs at all for the help with Hellrazor, we tracked them down and gave them a week long extension because we believed that was fair. That seems to me not "screwing" with someone at all, if we had wanted to "screw them" we would have given them notice as soon as we were ready rather than giving an extension. If mod or OS feels that we acted unfairly to them why didn't he bring it up at that time? Why hasn't it been brought up at all except by you?
I don't necessarily dispute that the way we noticed was "lame" but it was perfectly within the way the deal was structured. For someone who is notorious for doing the same thing I find it disingenuous to really be particularly upset about it. We treated you "lamely" because you harassed us, maybe next time after someone fights a tough war you won't message them the moment it ends with threats.
And no legitimate wars? Seriously? We warred fury when they were number 1, is that not legitimate? Is the OS war not legitimate after they had over a week to prepare for it? Seriously? I am not sure why you feel the need to publicly disparage your ally, they fought hard against us. This is just coming across like you are a sore loser after a pretty mediocre age for BiO.
I thought of a new name for you though, maybe I should call you "Mr.It's okay to farm gold to my allies" instead?
And yes, we won't crown this age. But we had a great age with solid wars and dominant play all round. I am proud of my kingdoms performance, circumstances outside our control lead to us not winning which while disappointing isn't the end of the world. Although even this isn't fully true, we likely could have won if we were willing to try to take on Simians and take acres the way Sanctuary did (perhaps continuing to hit into the war to take acres as much as we could). But contrary to your suggestion (and perhaps Simians should back me up on this) we negotiate in good faith with those who treat us in good faith. I'm curious if BiO would have done the same in similar circumstances, but considering you are willing to gangbang a kingdom over some gold I think the answer is clear.
I am also pretty proud of HoH for a great age for them. They really turned it around this age and deserve a win. I am not happy with the circumstances but we don't begrudge them the victory. At the end of the day they are our ally and them winning has to be put in the win column.
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