Hostile Simians style

[Ruukis]

Step 1: Setup a war where you can farm all you want, offer a WW.
Step 2: When people see right through that plan and razes you, abuse game mechanics.
Step 3: Post a QQ thread about how dirty these people play.
Step 4: Benefit.

10/10 to this thread, would read again.

1. Register a forum account.
2. Do not read single post/talk with anyone actually involved.
3. Act as total multi.
4. Praise your hug-friends (calle)
5. Benefit (and think someone actually believes you).

[csarmi]

Step 1: Setup a war where you can farm all you want, offer a WW.
Step 2: When people see right through that plan and razes you, abuse game mechanics.
Step 3: Post a QQ thread about how dirty these people play.
Step 4: Benefit.

10/10 to this thread, would read again.

Keep trolling. No war win was offered. Nothing was offered at all. We would have won the war in 2 days or so, on 50% nw rule (or they could have surrendered anytime).

[StrikahTCL]

1. Register a forum account.
2. Do not read single post/talk with anyone actually involved.
3. Act as total multi.
4. Praise your hug-friends (calle)
5. Benefit (and think someone actually believes you).

I'm so sorry if you were offended. You are right, users should never be allowed to make their first post. This forum would be so crowded! I've read the logs. People here take every opportunity they can to trashtalk others to make themselfs look better.

[csarmi]

BTW if Simians was so concerned of me getting easy acres from a nub kd (aka farmwar, cause that's what their stance was):

1) Don't you insult my opponents please. You can insult me all you want. Believe what you will. But from what I saw, these guys fought to the best of their ability.
They had very high uniques counts (check papers and summary). They seemed to be attackign very organized all the way thourgh. After they realized that they couldn't break my wpa, their T/M's just focused on keeping me and our key provinces explosioned and generally wasted very little sth and mana.
I can only commend them for their willingness to fight on even when it started to look bad for them. They kept their uniques count up (some KD's lose their willingness to fight on when things turns bad).
Yes, they made strategical mistakes. Yes, they underestimate bank power (and their ability to keep me under check). Yes, they were probably too stubborn to fight on for so long, but I also believe they were fighting for fun in the last few days. I dunno. Ask Lestat, he's their monarch.
Also, their monarch and their provinces acted honorable throughout the war. Really nice guys, I'd recommend them to anyone .

2) You never checked the facts. Papers (and summarres) have shown exactly what this was. War 10 days keeping up activity, leading your KD and bank at the same time. Then try to keep up activity on a non-real war for so long. Lilekyl story...

3) Claim that I'm running low defense. To be safe from outside hits, I'd have to run 80dpa (with troops OUT!) in a war where I'm bank and I'm supposed to be helping out my people. So, with 32 pop per acre I'd have room for what 4-5 pezz per acre. Nice. I'm pretty sure that banks usually run such a high def. Even build forts just in case.

4) Had you been so very concerned that we are fighting weak kingdoms, ones that don't know how to handle banks, you could have just challenged us. We were to be quite close in range after leaving the war. I'd have even accepted the challenge after some well-deserved break time for us and my guys (provided my guys have said yes as well).

Instead, you never offered a war to sort things out, just razed into a clean war. Congrats.

[uneek]

PEW PEW PEW, thats me, reflecting your whiney *****ing off my shield of happiness.

[TeddybearSTHLM]

am I the only one thinking of gangnam style when i see this topic?

hostile simians style!

raze raze raze raze raze

hostile simians style!

eeeeeeeeeeeey, sexy anriii

raze raze raze raze raze

hostile simians style!

*guy in yellow suit (anri?) dances with big korean dude*

[csarmi]

"Am I the only one?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Ri3J7mEcA

[dingdingdong]

At one point we thought of withdrawing because our 5k province is going down, I do feel like losing the war. In the end we agree to continue the war, and both kd fought so hard. When we are about to claim win with just 200k nw away, I'm so excite finally we win. And then here comes the razer Simian.

They don't deserve any respect at all imo, even they reach top. They are just joker.

[protector]

Calling Simians out when we force an end to the war is just mehhh. Csarmi lost that war and he could keep it going forever to farm acres. It had to end.

You complain when Abs plays police but it's ok for you to play police in this matter? Lmao.
Either way, this war would not continue forever; he was about to get a forced WW due to time + kd size.

As for bug abuse; the only reason he used it was because you (or rather, calle) played like a jackass against him.

If you ask me, calle & co are just jealous because he could grow freely in war for a while, while you are ****ed with no targets and 1k+ soldier/acre explore cost. And as far as I read, Simians was trying to war smaller kds also to grow their banks.. something with pot & kettle ? :P

[csarmi]

Well, that 5k province going down looked so good to them at first sight, but I thought (and I was right!) that in the long run, it would be beneficial to us.
That guy was sitting on 6k acres with 6k wizards, 6k thieves, peasants FB'd down and defense melting away.

Once they shot him down to 2k, we managed to aid him up due to GBP and we gained another 2k attacker with high tpa/wpa. Sot I thought it'd be benefitting us in the long run. Ii's more complex than that, but sure as hell it didn't hurt us at all.

I think that they had big expectations of that prov's taken down.

In the end, we won this war because they were caught between hammer and anvil. Our core kept topfeeding them, I kept bottomfeeding them, they couldn't remove my resources and couldn't stop the topfeeders either: hard to take provs out when bank is available.

I also have to clarify something: by winning the war I've meant "winning", not just stubborning up for such a long time that the enemy loses patience. I know very well that with a bank you have that option but I find that lame. If they'd have had our core clearly beaten at any point, I would have spoken up to my KD to ask a vote on withdrawal (and clearly suggested to do so).

And yes, we were about two days away from winning by default.

[calle]

Hahahha....

"Step 1: Setup a war where you can farm all you want, offer a WW.
Step 2: When people see right through that plan and razes you, abuse game mechanics.
Step 3: Post a QQ thread about how dirty these people play.
Step 4: Benefit.

10/10 to this thread, would read again. "

he said its posible !!
not that this was the case.
nr 2 you dont need 80 dpa at 30411a = 2676k with monarch
you needed 50 dpa to be UB to us ....
and if you choise is to farm war on 16 dpa then you mad and i blame none but your self for putting you in this position.

Normal banks run 75% draft at least in war to stay UB , have good tpa/wpa and still be abel to 4x with there offence,

why do i call it farm war becuse you hade 551k peasants , vs any decent kd you have 20-40k not 500k+
even if 1 of 10 fb goes in that kills 50k peasants / fb to start with

you call to aid out 333 mil + tb insteed of grow army with you +10k land you got from farming.

In the end you see it 1 way , we see it an other way , noting you or me or anyone say will change that !

[lastunicorn]

Normal banks run 75% draft at least in war to stay UB

I don't think you know what you're talking about there.

[Anri]

I will clarify a few things here. I did not know who was who in the bank world. If i had known Csarmi was #1 bank i would have CFed him and given him #1 cause he is a good guy. I took for granted it was an enemy and gave OK on the hits on him. I cant turn back time and make it undone. Maybe i should have asked who it was, maybe Csarmi should have approuched me for a CF. Would he have hit us after war cause he would have had the size to do it? Why did he not approuch me for CF? Our chance to take him down a notch werent to be missed when he was in my eyes considered to be an enemy. I had no clue that Csarmi was banking.

So, in conclusion here we rape people not in CF that we consider to be enemies.
(If i had known Csarmi played that prov he would have been considered friendly and given CF).

I have not been active enough to try and lead the banks so i gave them more or less the free hands. Things like this was bound to happen with Calle and Apoplexia up there. They are rather fearless, active and greedy banks. I have had no intention at all to talk to people and been involved in all the crazy bank diplomacy. The rest of the KD have been waving other targets despite of bank fights going on. The council have concentrated on this and we been pissed if we got any extra diplomatic issues because of the banks. If the banks stepped on a few to many toes its my fault for not being active enough. I ofc stand by my players but they have to find thier own ways to win and do the diplomacy. But in the Csarmi conflict i would have stopped things if i had known it was him. There is no more to it really.

Simians just being Simians. Each time we hit a KD i get a message from a few players saying how much we suck while they want CF. We had CF last age and now you hit us, i tought we were friends, cmon Anri, why are you doing this, you will regret this jada jada jada. I swear, there is hardly one single KD we can hit without getting crap back. No matter if we do it legit or not. We been around for to long and we have friends and enemies everywhere. Its why big or small things get posted here for the public, every move we make we get covered and trashed in the forums. Its pretty lol. We should CF everyone and just ride each age out? People make us look as if we are the worst KD that ever played this game. Simians just want to war fair wars. Ofc people we know gonna get hit. Or we end up in a situation hitting someone and someone says you are doing this for BiO, you are doing this for Insolence or something else like this. Its not like that and we can war BiO if they feel for it. There is nothing that stops them from targeting us and there is nothing that stops us from targeting them. People should stop acting like we are allies when are not. There has been a few ages where we benefited from not raping each other non stop. Thats all there is. Can the sever just move on, talk less and war us or CF us. People also often say we respected Simians 5-10 ages ago and looked up to them. Well, its probably because you were not in range back then. You evolved and came into our range and got hit or waved by us so now there is no respect any longer cause we hit your KD. The server is to small. Over the ages everyone will get hit or waved by us. If we gonna be hated thats cool, we can live with being the most hated KD on the server and get lots of action. Just stop talking BS and instead war the KD you lost respect for. We will see if we can get respect back on the battlefield. People would probably not want us to disband cause we do make this game pretty interesting now and then. Always something going on, good or bad things. Keep spreading the propaganda people! It would be impossible to play each and every single age and always take the morale high ground in every single situation. Things do get nasty and we do hurt people from time to time. It happens to us and it happens to others. Just the way it goes.

I am sure that Csarmi finds a way to pay us back after our wrongs to him.
I cant ask Bishop to reset the server to before the hits and so cant Csarmi after using his 6 generals.

Btw - I dont think our UDs got the +50 stealth bonus after we reset the haflers. But i could be wrong. If they got it we dont deserve it and did not do it intentionally like Jdorje did. Reset all of them again if there is something wrong. It is a clear advantage and a abuse of the game. Thou i most recently just heard about this. If i had known earlier i would have questioned Jdorjes reset from the start.

And to answer Prot: We have not targeted smaller KDs. All KDs we recently target have had a core in the exact same position as us. When we have two banks we are likely to target a KD with less networth then us. It does not mean we are "bottomfeeding" cause infact our core is the exact same size as opponents.

I think i covered most now, time to shut up! :)

[Bishop]

Ruler: The Wealthy King Csarmi

A cunning disguise indeed.

[Anri]

Ruler: The Wealthy King Csarmi

A cunning disguise indeed.

I just clicked his name ingame and saw that... lol
Very cunning disguise!

If he had used it as prov name i would have known it was him! crap