Evil Dragons...

[Bishop]

Why is it possible to op into and eowcf then? Why not simply make it -100% thievery efficiency in and out of eowcf?

Several reasons, all of which you can find in this forum if you search.

[THX1912]

Or you could just humour me, save me some time, and write them down here.

[goodz]

We aren't interested in players who think its ok to land drop and op into eowcf with no consequences. We are 100% in favour of players who uphold ethical values.

by "we"

do you mean evil dragons or the mods?

[SneakySeth]

We aren't interested in players who think its ok to land drop and op into eowcf with no consequences. We are 100% in favour of players who uphold ethical values.

So Bishop define land dropping and why it isn't ok. And what is ethical in your opinion.

[DHaran]

The fact that they continually introduce mechanics to deter landdropping is a pretty big f'ing clue the devs don't like the concept. We need more people who want to compete, not people who want to drop down and smash nubs.

[SillyRabbit]

Someone needs to make a post on utopian etiquette and ethics, I think everyone here has their own idea of what's right and wrong.

[flutterby]

Someone needs to make a post on utopian etiquette and ethics, I think everyone here has their own idea of what's right and wrong.

That's the beauty of the game.. There are the rules set by the admin.. and then there are the beliefs of everyone else. There needs to be no rules of ethics and etiquette.

[SillyRabbit]

The fact that they continually introduce mechanics to deter landdropping is a pretty big f'ing clue the devs don't like the concept. We need more people who want to compete, not people who want to drop down and smash nubs.

2 ages ago we found ourselves up in the top 20 for NW mid-age, and was having a difficult time getting a war with any kds in our range. Most kds at that size are going for growth, not wars. So as a warring kd, we take measures to make sure we can find targets willing to war us. If that means we need to stay small, we will do it. We are still competing, just not for the land/NW crown with the 'top kds'

[THX1912]

The fact that they continually introduce mechanics to deter landdropping is a pretty big f'ing clue the devs don't like the concept. We need more people who want to compete, not people who want to drop down and smash nubs.

Then what about the suggesting I made? Or the one Zauper countered me with?

[SneakySeth]

The fact that they continually introduce mechanics to deter landdropping is a pretty big f'ing clue the devs don't like the concept. We need more people who want to compete, not people who want to drop down and smash nubs.

Quit assuming land dropping is all about ghetto bashing. Sheesh.

[Sheister]

Someone needs to make a post on utopian etiquette and ethics, I think everyone here has their own idea of what's right and wrong.

I do believe that is correct in the last part there.



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As for me, I do recall that when people were angry ad ghetto cats for stealing from larger kingdoms in hostile or otherwise (I forget the details but I am sure Korp can fill us in) that there was a push by BiO to war them and other kingdoms were called in to RK them in war because the cat's needed to be taught a lesson in ethics or some such.....

Now, when strippers and friends wish to teach an ethical lesson to ED, people are *****ing about the tactic because it does not agree with their ethic.

Look, its simple. If RK into war is acceptable as a teaching tool, then it is acceptable when competing ideologies use it to teach their lessons to each other....or something like that.

in other words, holy crap this thread has way too many pages for two kingdoms no one cares that much about.

[Bishop]

Or you could just humour me, save me some time, and write them down here.

Use search. My time is as important as yours is.

So Bishop define land dropping and why it isn't ok. And what is ethical in your opinion.

The playerbase already decided what landdropping entailed and why it was unethical, we simply added additional game mechanics to enforce what the playerbase demanded.

Someone needs to make a post on utopian etiquette and ethics, I think everyone here has their own idea of what's right and wrong.

Ability and power allow you to define what is ethical. There isn't a kingdom in the game what could stand if the playerbase decided to punish them for what they deemed was unethical. Certain things, such as landdropping, have been deemed unethical for years. You can easily tell this by the game mechanics that deter it.

Now, when strippers and friends wish to teach an ethical lesson to ED, people are *****ing about the tactic because it does not agree with their ethic.

Look, its simple. If RK into war is acceptable as a teaching tool, then it is acceptable when competing ideologies use it to teach their lessons to each other....or something like that.

Its acceptable if enough players deem it to be acceptable.

Quit assuming land dropping is all about ghetto bashing. Sheesh.

What's it about then? Its certainly not about warring kingdoms of equal skill.

edit: Goodz - game dev.

[goodz]

I do agree that they should be allowed to gang up and raze kill if they want.

The inability to explore for a reasonable price in eow makes razing in eow a bit over the top strong.

Land dropping has been hindered some by making it destroy honor but its still hugely favorably if you have a friend land drop you. Warring in the middle of the pack is where you want to be for honor, largely due to most targets = best odds of finding a ghetto to war.

[Korp]

I think ED might turn out to be the new Simians, just slightly better! (with the new simians i mean they attract the posters attention and people love/hate them)

[THX1912]

The playerbase already decided what landdropping entailed and why it was unethical, we simply added additional game mechanics to enforce what the playerbase demanded.

The massive use of outside websites or tools such as Pimp, uTools, Stinger or angel suggest the player base also demands that. Should we expect the devs to add game mechanics to respond to that demand?