Uf just let it be, and please lets move on. Lets talk about Drug he drinks alot and needs help.
Uf just let it be, and please lets move on. Lets talk about Drug he drinks alot and needs help.
But Elit is utopia's Robin Hood, so we need Drug to be our lush Friar Tuck?
and for plan B :
SH - "or challenge them to a drinking contest?"
So your argument is that I knew how the bug worked but had our guys undertrain thieves, not do homes pump to instead stock extra gc, and not convert in tds in time for a double-fortified standoff? I don't think it holds water.Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter
And your argument is that we are farming gold because we have no gold? We'll be glad to break ceasefire and re-ceasefire with rage, hoh, and anyone else you care to name, if you'll do the same with all the allies of yours that I will name. And then we can do this again every time 2 kingdoms fight.
BTW: kingdoms don't run 0 thieves on cows because they think they deserve not to be robbed. They run 0 thieves on cows because you make more money in the long run by doing so.
Also BTW: targetsharing on the forums is against the game rules. Please stop it.
I, again, call bull****.
Last edited by jdorje; 04-04-2013 at 17:12.
Let me correct you, "They run 0 thieves on cows because if you cfed the right kds you will make more money in the long run doing so"BTW: kingdoms don't run 0 thieves on cows because they think they deserve not to be robbed. They run 0 thieves on cows because you make more money in the long run by doing so.
We generally don't run 0TPA on cows but we were fixing some trade balance issues and then didn't bother to retrain. We will run high TPA on our cows for remainder of age. We do not appreciate elit target sharing us or accusing us of random BS.
Thanks for your concern. To the random provinces who messaged me saying im farming to my allies your nubs! The only people im farming to are you :(
My largest concern out of all of this is getting messages at 4am that are unimportant! Now im sleepy! If elit just waits till AM or even goes on irc and contacts us can all be cleared up without him accusing of farming and target sharing. We are truely not that hard to contact. irc.absalom.info #havoc
I think everyone(both sides) should calm down a little. A bit too much of a drama. All this is starting to piss me off. Chill!
Yet, ive stolen shinies from your kingdom att numerous occassions with you having 0 tpa to low tpa. All of you Absalom kingdoms are silly, especially you consider thats not the reason you gave us if you gonna lie at least make sure what lies you are using ;)We generally don't run 0TPA on cows but we were fixing some trade balance issues and then didn't bother to retrain. We will run high TPA on our cows for remainder of age. We do not appreciate elit target sharing us or accusing us of random BS.
Yea and that should never be the case. Provinces with no thieves deserve to be robbed by the entire god damn server! ;)
Similar to a province with 0 troops shouldn't sit on 10k acres either, right? Or well, he/she could, but odds are you wont keep your land very long.
Be happy that BB has cats occupied or they'd probably be all over you (Havoc) lol :p
I think Elit's main reason for using the 0tpa argument was Sanctuary sort-off accusing him of having cheated by supposedly the bug that was referred to by dorje. Can't blame him and I think it's only a sign of good will from you to have broken/re-cfed to show that you're not.
As for the 0thieves; it'd surprise you but it occurs more often. I've used the strategy to fix TBs in the paste, but that was only temporary. It was perhaps a day.
Nowadays it's more common for the big cows to sit on zero thieves. Rage did it last age, Sanctuary did it this age and now that's you. If you ask me, a taunt like the one done on Sanctuary or you is a good thing; it makes everyone aware you can get something back from the ones that keep feeding on you.
If you want to hoard gold, you better protect it. If you think you can sit on zero thieves for weeks, deal with the consequences of being robbed once you're caught.
Cats did rob us, while our cow(s) were on 0 thieves. They didn't bother robbing the cows. Had they done so they'd have gotten less money per op, and we'd have not minded as much since cows have tons of extra gold anyway.
The reason cows don't need thieves is similar to why they don't need defense: because there are so few of them, that it's easy to ceasefire the relevant opponents that might provide a threat. This is an artifact of a broken pool system. With the exponential explore costs and median multiplier, only a few of the biggest kingdoms can afford to run cows. And if you don't have 3-4 cows by this point in the age, you have 0 chance of winning land crown. (Cow no longer means what it used to, though: now it's just any 14k+ province that can no longer explore.)
Regarding pulse knowing of the bug, I think we had a double fortified standoff with rage this age for 3 days, with 5 really pumped and prepared halfers right away.
I don't remember hearing any reports or me making many orders to rob into it. Certainly nothing rampant or suggesting that we knew of it. Would have played tons of things differently I imagine.
In our standoff with simians we gave ops well on very low TPA at start of age assuming fortified would protect us. They hardly opped us so I suppose just thinking your getting -50% tpa is generally enough to prevent people from going wild in fort.
My point is if he simply asks rather then publicly leaking our intel and saying we are farming it is very easy for us to prove we are not. This is not the first gripe we have had with how elit handles himself so meh. Live with it I guess! Only a few of us up here so you run into issues over and over with same people :)
Last edited by goodz; 04-04-2013 at 17:49.
odd ... 10 pages between my odd ....
Last age is what I am referring to. If rage got +100% wpa and tpa every time you entered fortified as some claim, I think you both would have noticed. And I'm surprised you didn't notice that the -50% tpa/wpa was missing. However it was pointed out you (pulse) had a big tpa/wpa advantage so maybe that negated it.
Typical abs vs. non abs thread with lots of smack talk. I've seen a lot of X vs insert-Abs-kd-name-here and typically has the same result, Abs kd wins and thread goes quiet. I don't expect this to be any different.
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