Evil Dragons...

[madi]

Being up acres does not mean a kingdom has won... looks like debauch really pulled a great game plan together after all that had happen. nice work..

[Sheister]

Withdrawding up acres is a lame tactic?

Well, it places you in a location in the rankings that you don't belong making you food for someone else thus upsetting the balance of the game and ruining the competition for kingdoms up higher. It also flies in the face of competing as hard as you can.

You see, both of these are things that make land-dropping reviled........... ruining competition at the top and upsetting game balance and avoiding competition. So, it seems to me that ED is ripe for being razed.

[Silvapwns]

Been stupidly busy, might try to write up some stuff but I wouldn't count on it before Saturday.

Let us be clear on one thing, ED lost this war Debauchery didn't win it. We made some probably moronic choices based on ignorance towards retarded game mechanics of deep chaining instead of destroying their T/M threat early on, if we'd hit them down early then it would have been over.

Our setup is also trash vs. higher T/M numbers, our hybrids out grew their ratios early and were useless, there's many other things but am not going go into KD matters or throw out "excuses" on the forums.

We f'ed up, it's embarrassing, I'm glad we've learned lessons this age rather than when we're trying to crown. Stop with all the ass kissing as well, it's more pathetic than our withdrawal, you must think we're idiots if you believe it comes across as sincere.

finally some excuses have been offered.

[madi]

so i can assume this ends the debate on what player needs to be more active, tm's or attackers... (the truth is that both need to be active). im just happy that ed finally saw the power of tm's...

[Palem]

Well, it places you in a location in the rankings that you don't belong making you food for someone else thus upsetting the balance of the game and ruining the competition for kingdoms up higher. It also flies in the face of competing as hard as you can.

I'm confused how taking acres away from a kd means you've less hard than they have or that the acres somehow don't belong to you...

[Smitty87]

Retal waaaaaar?

[zmasternr1]

Well, it places you in a location in the rankings that you don't belong making you food for someone else thus upsetting the balance of the game and ruining the competition for kingdoms up higher. It also flies in the face of competing as hard as you can.

You see, both of these are things that make land-dropping reviled........... ruining competition at the top and upsetting game balance and avoiding competition. So, it seems to me that ED is ripe for being razed.

Lol after the first 3 days of war we had like 12 hybrids with totally ruined wpa/tpa ratios due to having doubled in size. On top of that all they could do was 12a bottomfeeds while being totally wrecked by 100% thieves / 100% mystics that sat on unchanged acres. Really a bad choice of strategy from our side.

Despite this tho, war continued for another 6 days and strippers never actually gained acres. We were the more active kd. If the honor mechanics didn't work like they did we would have kept the honor as well.

Strippers might have a setup that wins long wars, but they are a farm in short ones. And if we went for their T/Ms earlier instead of attackers it would have been game over for them.

[Syntico]

hihi zmas, one of the cooler swedes

Who is the other?

[Korp]

Parth obvously

[lucas]

Epic war fellows

[Korp]

From what I can see CLEARLY, ED won the war, despite all the disadvantages faced by ED.

No, they lost you see when you withdraw they lose its simple as that.

2) ED lost a province, due to strippers and their dirty dirty tricks. Calling in help from other kingdom to help them.

Provide proof please (Stripper was a prov down as well) so ..

3) ED were bullied into the war this age due to strippers attitude last age

Are you stupid? If i hit you, repeatedly in the face I was bullied into hitting you cause last year we had a disagreement?

ED is an established kingdom over a decade (just google ED and you will see), whereas strippers is just a newly founded kingdom.

ED used to be a established kingdom then they disbanded, now they reappeared with the more or less same "core". So in essences Strippers is older than this new ED.

But ED is an honourable and powerful kingdom who can't be bothered with thug ghetto kingdoms.
I am sure ED will not stoop to their low tricks and low level.

You mean like raze killing provinces just cause they dont like how they play?

Let me be the FAIR judge here. I am not from ED or strippers.

Nothing in your post was fair, you are just trying to brownnose ED as much as possible. Quite patethic actually.

[yamibone]

Let me be the FAIR judge here. I am not from ED or strippers.

From what I can see CLEARLY, ED won the war, despite all the disadvantages faced by ED.
1) ED lost tons of offense razing strippers' elf to death.
2) ED lost a province, due to strippers and their dirty dirty tricks. Calling in help from other kingdom to help them.
3) ED were bullied into the war this age due to strippers attitude last age
4) ED won tons of acres from strippers ~ 2000+
5) ED out attacked strippers by ~ 300 attacks, shows their might and power
6) ED surrender to strippers despite having holding MASSIVE advantage over strippers in this war. They could conquest or bounce off strippers' TM and easily get them down.

ED is an established kingdom over a decade (just google ED and you will see), whereas strippers is just a newly founded kingdom.

Now, ED could play dirty and raze strippers after the war, especially after the massive arces gained.
And see who has the last laugh.

But ED is an honourable and powerful kingdom who can't be bothered with thug ghetto kingdoms.
I am sure ED will not stoop to their low tricks and low level.

LMAOOO this made my day. The first line of the post just kills it everytime

[Feint]

Let me be the FAIR judge here. I am not from ED or strippers.

From what I can see CLEARLY, ED won the war, despite all the disadvantages faced by ED.
1) ED lost tons of offense razing strippers' elf to death.
2) ED lost a province, due to strippers and their dirty dirty tricks. Calling in help from other kingdom to help them.
3) ED were bullied into the war this age due to strippers attitude last age
4) ED won tons of acres from strippers ~ 2000+
5) ED out attacked strippers by ~ 300 attacks, shows their might and power
6) ED surrender to strippers despite having holding MASSIVE advantage over strippers in this war. They could conquest or bounce off strippers' TM and easily get them down.

ED is an established kingdom over a decade (just google ED and you will see), whereas strippers is just a newly founded kingdom.

Now, ED could play dirty and raze strippers after the war, especially after the massive arces gained.
And see who has the last laugh.

But ED is an honourable and powerful kingdom who can't be bothered with thug ghetto kingdoms.
I am sure ED will not stoop to their low tricks and low level.

I am just a on looker and belong to neither kingdom. I kept track of the war from the start till the end. Obviously, just from tr kingdom page, ED started the war with much more advantage . Stripper with 2 provinces killed and at lower NW. ED was the one who started the wave and not strippers. ED surrender because obviously they are losing. Instead of letting stripper farm out. Even a normal commoner will be able to differentiate the facts. As for the raze kill on ED when war happens: I got no comment because I won't know too. But definitely it would be even greater achievement for stripper if there is no external interference and result remained the same, I reckon

[Cows]

I remember at start of war debauchery was about 7-8k acres smaller . They were also about 750k nw smaller which seemed to help level out their war win ratio .... At one point in the war ED was 1.6 mil nw larger and about 22-24k acres larger but I see that debauchery turned on the jets and everyday it seemed their acres were going up and up and up.... I don't think bounce waves would have worker when Ur offence core was probably under 50k offence as their unbreakables were 100-200k def? . The lower 100 range being smaller of the Elves Could of maybe done conquesting on the little Elfs who they massacred lol but halfers were way outta range . And as soon as u started tryin to conquest the acres would of leaned hard in debs favor lol

[Sig]

Despite this tho, war continued for another 6 days and strippers never actually gained acres. We were the more active kd. If the honor mechanics didn't work like they did we would have kept the honor as well.

Strippers might have a setup that wins long wars, but they are a farm in short ones. And if we went for their T/Ms earlier instead of attackers it would have been game over for them.

Lol oh yes, you were def more active. Acres = activity; words from the famous Utopian legends, ED.