AMA vs sanct round 2

[Elldallan]

As we all know, there is an unwritten code of honor in the game that has been established, in part at Absalom's promotion of it, to let kingdoms fight fair 1v1 fights. There is nothing about this in the rules and the game initially actually didn't even have any protections or mechanisms to even discourage "non 1v1 play" but these were put in with time mainly at the request of players.

It has never been my belief that "honorable play" was intended to allow kingdoms to dodge such 1v1 fights yet over time this has frequently been exactly the case. Early ages you'd have to be an idiot to wave some other kingdom when you knew another was about to wave you. You would only expose yourself to the one about to wave and receive no protections at all.

After it became widely accepted to let kingdoms fight 1v1, many kingdoms realized "Hey, that kingdom over there that might beat us says they are about to wave us. Let's quick wave some other kingdom and tell them that they are dishonorable if they wave us like they said they were about to."

This was then extended into, "Let's also say we'll never cf the smaller kingdom we waved so that no one can ever wave us without being called dishonorable! We can even explore and pump while having imaginary protection form anyone touching us that we didn't choose ourselves to wave!"

If this mentality is never broken, kingdoms can be impossible for anyone to ever wave all age. A kingdom could keep a semi active ghetto hostile up all age, or simply get notice deals in place and then just initiate said hostile whenever notice is recieved and refuse to ever end it unless they get new notice deals. You can also go straight from one hostile to another, always choosing who you wave and ensuring they are an easy match. No kingdom can ever initiate with you.

1v1 play was never intended to be a means to dodge fair fights and without kingdoms sometimes following through and waving as they said they would, then kingdoms will continue to keep waving someone else whenever they get notice by a kingdom they didn't want to fight. Certainly a line has to be drawn somewhere on this behavior even if you might not agree that this was an appropriate place to draw the line. Havoc felt it was and in this case that is where the decision rested.

If Sanct had not decided to go and piss MA off I would have agreed with you that MA didn't have any legitimate reason to avoid Havoc but when an alliance mate decides to interfere with their preparation that is clearly NOT 1v1 and MA can be expected to respond to that provocation, this is not dodging, Sanct initiated a legitimate conflict with MA when they stole from them regardless of how much smaller sanct was, any move by Havoc other than reinstating the original notice is not 1v1 and a blatant attempt by Abs to bully MA because you know that Havoc could not possibly hope to beat MA 1v1, Rage might have been able to do it late age when they're whored their sage bonus properly but no other Abs kd obviously has a chance in a fair fight.

Sanct went after MA again and MA responded as anyone could have predicted they would so MA and Sanct trades hits, dragons and ops for 48h and then both sides stops attacks for a mere 12 hours(but not ops) because Sancts notice with pewpew is running out and MA's notice with Havoc is running out, this does not magically mean it's not a hostile any more as you amongst others have claimed before when you say that hostile is defined by the prescence of a button or the word hostile on target kd's kd page. So by ANY sane definition MA and Sanct was still in a hostile and Havoc and pewpew decided to intervene, Sanct brought that upon themselves when they antagonized MA despite knowing pewpew was coming so maybe it was Sanct trying to run from pewpew and not MA running from HAvoc like you're trying to claim and failing.

There is no evidence or indication that MA was running from Havoc, Sanct antagonized MA and should have expected a result. This could be interpreted as Sanct running from pewpew but thats unlikely since MA would hand Sancts ass to them in a way pewpew could never have don(no insult intended to pewpew). Mor likely is that Havoc knows they can't possibly hope to win against MA in a fair 1v1 fight, after all MA just handily beat Sanct without barely breaking a sweat and Sanct had by far the best war setup so the result of a fair Havoc vs MA war was already a given.