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    Oh strippers.. I will only say this: 'time will reveal one's true colours'. And it did! So soon, right after war with ED.

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    I just keep wondering... how much complaining would/will debauchery do if the community decides to action them instead of admin. I think they don't realize the community has far stricter punishments than the small stuff the admins did.

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    I know half a dozen kingdoms who were already considering or planning on razing into their wars for their continued stealing from EOWCF periods throughout the age.
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    I'm a little surprised their princes haven't started being razed.

    Community is so timid these days :(

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    Or all the cool KDs are busy.

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    2 moderators talking about encouraging other kingdoms to raze Deb,isnt that against the spirit of the rules? Moreover EOWCF as mentioned by others its a period of time to rebuild your provinces ASAP it is NOT designed as a period to horde tonnes of GC with near zero tpa for an unintented advantage.If its so,pls change it that no one can op into a EOWCF next age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mewunited View Post
    2 moderators talking about encouraging other kingdoms to raze Deb,isnt that against the spirit of the rules? Moreover if EOWCF as mentioned by others its a period of time to rebuild your provinces ASAP it is NOT designed as a period to horde tonnes of GC with near zero tpa for an unintented advantage.If its so,pls change it that no one can op into a EOWCF next age.
    Clearly you have little understanding here.
    a) Opping into EoWCF is about respect, not about what it's intended for. Doing such is simply bound to get you burned by those kds when it's their turn to take advantage of you.
    b) Mods are players just like you, who volunteer their free time to help keep things around here clean.
    c) Players encourage players to take action against the "low lifes" in the game. That is what Debauchery is right now.

    Ever heard of "You mess with the bull, you get the horns" ? Similar concept. Don't worry. I'm 100% sure your 3 elf prince provs will be dead b4 EoA. Someone in the community is bound to have free time before age ends.
    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    I'm a little surprised their princes haven't started being razed.

    Community is so timid these days :(
    The Kingdoms I have heard discuss this are currently preoccupied. With the extension on the age though it would not surprise me to see it happen before EoA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewunited View Post
    2 moderators talking about encouraging other kingdoms to raze Deb,isnt that against the spirit of the rules? Moreover EOWCF as mentioned by others its a period of time to rebuild your provinces ASAP it is NOT designed as a period to horde tonnes of GC with near zero tpa for an unintented advantage.If its so,pls change it that no one can op into a EOWCF next age.
    #1 We are moderators of the forums, that has nothing to do with our opinions on in-game stuff. It's annoying how often we have to explain this to people.

    #2 EOWCF is a time to rebuild your provinces. If you are spending all your gc hourly during EOWCF, then you are kind of nub and don't know how to maximize recovery. Training time with IA is 14 hours, most competent players calc when they need to start drafting and stock gc until OOW -14 hours. In good kingdoms, this tends to lead to massive gc stockpiles during the first 3 days of EOWCF. Learn to play.

    #3 War status will never be completely protected from outside interference because it removes too much political play. It's up to the community to take care of kingdoms like Debauchery who don't respect such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHaran View Post
    I know half a dozen kingdoms who were already considering or planning on razing into their wars for their continued stealing from EOWCF periods throughout the age.
    only a half dozen....these kinda comments
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    It's not being dirty, it's being intelligent.....stole 4 mil from a guy....stealing out of my own war and into someone else's
    tend to anger a lot of people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    I'm a little surprised their princes haven't started being razed.
    Community is so timid these days :(
    why bother, they lost their WW's thats what they value not like they can honor crown. I will add its not just being timid its that the kds that would hurt strippers tend to respect a kd when they ask not to interfere in their war w/strippers. For example ED only lost their war because they requested no outside retals to strippers after geting pk-ed in their war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewunited View Post
    2 moderators talking about encouraging other kingdoms to raze Deb,isnt that against the spirit of the rules? Moreover if EOWCF as mentioned by others its a period of time to rebuild your provinces ASAP it is NOT designed as a period to horde tonnes of GC with near zero tpa for an unintented advantage.If its so,pls change it that no one can op into a EOWCF next age.
    1) No it is not against the spirit of the rules. Palem and Dharan are simply forum moderators. They're here to make sure forum rules are abided by. Razing provinces has never been against the spirit of the rules, whether into or out of war. It has always been considered one of the only ways to actually 'police' the server, and help enforce the rules we all play by. Technically by advocating the raze of Debauchery, the moderators are supporting the spirit of the rules.

    2) EoWCF is indeed intended to help rebuild. It is in poor taste to hit and op into war. If you have no immediate threats, there should be no reason to not run your province in the most efficient way possible. Of course since it IS possible to hit and op into war, there is always going to be that kingdom that decides to be a dick. Now that is not against the rules as written, but people are also not going to be very appreciative of their gold getting taken during their rebuilding period. This goes back to the first point: We, as Utopians, have constructed social norms to which we all adhere. Like in any society. These norms are not formally recognized by the authority (Bishop), yet we enforce them by ostracizing (razing) people would do not conform to our set of norms or hold our values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezzerland View Post
    Clearly you have little understanding here.
    a) Opping into EoWCF is about respect, not about what it's intended for. Doing such is simply bound to get you burned by those kds when it's their turn to take advantage of you.
    b) Mods are players just like you, who volunteer their free time to help keep things around here clean.
    c) Players encourage players to take action against the "low lifes" in the game. That is what Debauchery is right now.

    Ever heard of "You mess with the bull, you get the horns" ? Similar concept. Don't worry. I'm 100% sure your 3 elf prince provs will be dead b4 EoA. Someone in the community is bound to have free time before age ends.

    The Kingdoms I have heard discuss this are currently preoccupied. With the extension on the age though it would not surprise me to see it happen before EoA.
    Mind your language Ezzerland i am not from Deb and calling other fellow players playing this game "low life" is bannable,if the moderators got the eyes to see.

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    They already got 8 ww taken away. And the person involved in the so called war fixing had been deleted. Razing the rest In that kingdom doesn't seem justified. just my personal view

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feint View Post
    They already got 8 ww taken away. And the person involved in the so called war fixing had been deleted. Razing the rest In that kingdom doesn't seem justified. just my personal view
    Separate punishments for separate transgressions. They are due to be razed because they ignored all requests to stop robbing into people's wars. That's got nothing to do with losing wins and the deletions of their monarch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mewunited View Post
    Mind your language Ezzerland i am not from Deb and calling other fellow players playing this game "low life" is bannable,if the moderators got the eyes to see.
    Debauchery are the low lifes in the game right now. You mad?
    Now, I can apologize for incorrectly assuming you are from Debauchery. Nothing more to say :)

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