Debauchery...

[Sheister]

Can I get an Ezzerland recap please?

once upon a time, there was a little boy who came out of his mommy's tummy. And she decided to name him ******. Little did she know her bundle of joy would one day grow up into a young man who works on computers and ends up taking the handle Ezzerland. Nor did she know he would find twooo-wuv in the utopian commoonity. The rest of the tale is quite moooving but then we don't really have the time to moo about it moo. moo moo moo moom mooo

and that is the mooo of ezzermoo.

[LameBeaver]

The only logical argument here is: Don't demand respect. Earn it. They seem to think they can treat anyone they want however they want. In turn, they get treated poorly.

okay, reading this, i felt i'm missing something here other than yamibone's ranting that a kingdom double their size are forcing them to war. had to backread 20(sigh) pages that i gladly skipped and voila, the smaller kingdom he's referring to is Debauchery.

Pfft, carry on

[Kestrel038]

it's not fake. it's bottomfeeding. same brand of evil tho.

Bottom feed gains protection works perfectly.. it protects the smaller kingdom and allows them to fight back without penalty. So it can't possibly be that. The game mechanics protect the smaller kingdom remember :)

[Krynn]

Bottom feed gains protection works perfectly.. it protects the smaller kingdom and allows them to fight back without penalty. So it can't possibly be that. The game mechanics protect the smaller kingdom remember :)

Bull, we know that it don't work. but it will never change so why argue about it. I just read where some one thinks that "it never happens" that the "bigger kingdoms have soo much other things to do" That who is going to waste time on "no-name ghetto kingdom"....it is only the player base and as long as the Dev's don't care the game will never grow to what it once was.

[Ezzerland]

Can I get an Ezzerland recap please?

Not counting what went down in the ED thread:
Debauchery Robbed multiple kds into their wars/EoWCFs.
Debauchery was then caught Fake warring another kd and received a deletion and had their 8/8 win record reset to 0/0.
Lots of talk in thread about Fake Wars.
Lots of talk about mass razing of debauchery's provs for stealing into war/EoWCF's.
Dead Proets begin Razing Debauchery (in the open. Debauchery were in fort and in no conflict).
Debauchery complains no one should complain/attack them for stealing into war/EoWCF, should just train thieves instead.
30 pages later, Debauchery are now in war with Dead Proets, and more of the kds that got robbed are now raze killing debauchs provs from oow into the war.
Surely more complaints will come.

[Ezzerland]

War Only Summary (from our side).
Both sides have completed 1 wave (give or take a couple provs). So far, they have focused on more heavy chaining. We haven't focused on much :) (13 hours into war so far)
If there is interest, I will also post the full hostile summary.

Total Attacks Made: 50 (+7090 acres)
+ + + Uniques: 14
+ + + Trad March: 45 (+6530 acres)
+ + + Ambush: 5 (+560 acres)
+ + + Aid: 18 Packets
Total Attacks Suffered: 36 (-6161 acres)
- - - Uniques: 12
- - - Trad March: 34 (-5805 acres)
- - - Ambush: 2 (-356 acres)
Net Exchange: +929 acres

[Feint]

Oh no. War! Cannot raze kill anymore. Nice. Let see how a 18mill nw kingdom can whack down a 9 mill kingdom. Best if there is no interference. The disadvantage is great enough. There isn't a need for outside help. Will dead proet hand the first defeat to dechauery??

[Feint]

I not siding with dechauery. But since both are already in war, we should not be hitting. If not, we are behaving even in worse manner than stealing into ppl eowcf which is hitting into ppl war. Right?

[Ezzerland]

Oh no. War! Cannot raze kill anymore. Nice. Let see how a 18mill nw kingdom can whack down a 9 mill kingdom. Best if there is no interference. The disadvantage is great enough. There isn't a need for outside help. Will dead proet hand the first defeat to dechauery??

If they'd of declared sooner, they'd of gained extensively. Now it's just too late. People drastically underestimate the benefit of top feeding, especially when their core was just below the same range as our core. Since they started retalling, we've had to stall our razes and focus on removing any threat of war. To our benefit, they waited so long to declare that we were able to cut their top offenses down by ~200k+. Without outside help, they have no ability to win. They only have the ability to damage our core and prolong the inevitable. Since there are other kingdoms now razing them, this is a lose/lose situation for them. The real lose/lose part is that they admittedly have no intention of learning anything from this. So in the end, I imagine this will just keep happening.

I not siding with dechauery. But since both are already in war, we should not be hitting. If not, we are behaving even in worse manner than stealing into ppl eowcf which is hitting into ppl war. Right?

We cannot stop outside kingdoms from intervening (they already have begun raze killing into the war). As for behaving in a worse manner, that's in the eye of the beholder. Robbing into EoWCF is seen by many as disrespecting war. In their eyes (the eyes of those doing the razes), it's as DHaran said.

[SillyRabbit]

If they'd of declared sooner

A kingdom may only declare war if its target has more than 75% of its nw, and less than 133% of its nw or if the maximum hostility level is reached by both kingdoms.

We are in war? At least Ezzerland's kingdom will feel better about themselves when they get a win, even though it's against a kd 50% their size. GL HF both kds lol

[flutterby]

We are in war? At least Ezzerland's kingdom will feel better about themselves when they get a win, even though it's against a kd 50% their size. GL HF both kds lol

Well at least they don't have to fake it to get one. ;)

[Ezzerland]

We are in war? At least Ezzerland's kingdom will feel better about themselves when they get a win, even though it's against a kd 50% their size. GL HF both kds lol

Perhaps you need to re-read what you quoted from the guide. Specifically, the last 11 words. Fail attempt at saying you couldn't declare faster than what you chose to :)
Wonder how your kd will feel being stripped of its war wins AND honor.

Oh well. At least I know you wont be robbing into this EoWCF :P

[SillyRabbit]

Maybe you haven't realized, we've never had the option to declare war on you. But I admit, you are a much better troll than I am. I cannot keep up with the number of your posts! Must be nice not having a life outside utopia and these forums.

[Persain]

We are in war? At least Ezzerland's kingdom will feel better about themselves when they get a win, even though it's against a kd 50% their size. GL HF both kds lol

not about feeling "good" its about not letting u guys be jerks to every kd in range, wasteing your time and treating u the way u treat others. 1 war down, try stealing/being mean again and i bet another kd steps up to do this again...maybe w/more out of war razes. Heck maybe it'll be into a legit war not a raze fest. then again what do i know just one of the kds u pissed off over your ages of dirty play.

funny thing is i think most of this started when u found out my kd was gonna wave u, for a real war evenly matched offence/ubreakables/science/honor...always nice to see a bit of justice that u dont want a real fight rather have a 40+page thread about yourself than get beat on even terms.

[Ezzerland]

Maybe you haven't realized, we've never had the option to declare war on you. But I admit, you are a much better troll than I am. I cannot keep up with the number of your posts! Must be nice not having a life outside utopia and these forums.

Maybe you haven't realized, you don't need a button to declare war. According to the guide, as you quoted and I told you to read, you can declare war by maxing the hostility meter (both kingdoms). Our meter has been maxed shortly after day change for ~4 days now.

Also, I hope your kingdom attempted to report us for that in-game message you sent :) As if being deleted for fake warring and then being raze killed weren't enough, being deleted for sending false reports would be worthy of an IRL ROFL.

For those interested parties, SillyRabbit sent our monarch this in-game message:

As a follow up to the discussion we had on IRC, I want to thank you again for agreeing to terms that will benefit both kds. Its a good thing we are opping and attacking, otherwise this might be considered a 'fake war'. Shhhh don't want anyone to find out :)