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    Quote Originally Posted by jamin View Post
    I go back to my first post.
    Kingdom x asks your kingdom for a CF, they have come to you, so at first, because you're of course out to do whats best for your own kingdom, you ask for a free wave in order to get the CF. Why wouldn't you? Do you guys just say yes to whatever another kingdoms diplomat offers you every time? No, you counter offer, "What's in it for me" this is pretty common diplo and anyone that says it isn't has no clue how to do diplo. Anyway, so we did, we said we want a wave if you guys want to CF. You said you'd pass it over to your kingdom, you did, came back to Cody and said no you will not give acres. Cody said alright, you then said nice things about our kingdom and tried to chum up to Cody saying how you guys wouldn't hit us, but if we hit you you guys would do a long extended hostile with no war, YOU BOTH AGREED THAT WAS NOT A GOOD OPTION. Cody took you on face value, (his mistake, I would never have left it at that), you yourself said you don't want any trouble with our kingdom and cody said likewise. You said you wouldn't wave us, we said we would leave you guys alone as we have bigger kingdoms to go after, it was mentioned that we want to go after SWEA not you guys. As Cody needed to relay the information to the kingdom to discuss the possibility of accepting a CF without getting a free wave (which btw was almost at a consensus for yes before you waved), and also as you said you would find Cody the next day to continue the conversation (which you did not).

    Those are the facts, was Cody stupid for not sealing the deal? Yes, I'm not biased I call it how it is. Did you blatantly tell us as a representative of your kingdom you won't wave us? Yes. Did you wave us? Yes. Did we op you/get any intel on you? No. Did you make any further attempts after that conversation to talk to Cody or any one of us? No. So how else should I see it other than you bs'ed your way into catching us unawares.

    I have the logs of your conversation with Cody MRC, the whole thing, so don't tell me you had no idea we woulda accepted a CF without a wave, because that good sir is the only BS here.
    Jamin, are you serious? You used to play in HoH who did win some crowns right? Would you seriously rely on "Yeah maybe we will cf, we dont know - we dont want to limit our target list for later - but we will go for Swea now and not you". You grow and grow and run no army, while leaving us hanging in the dark. Why is that smart play??? We came to you daily to close this thing and the last thing we were told was a NO to the CF. What i told Cody, Jamin, was "i hope we can continue this tomorrow" as in, i hope we can continue chatting like we did the previous evening about this and that, old days etc. Do you know why i said that? - ill tell you: The negotiations were over, the answer was a no, so we had nothing more to talk about in that regard - I still had some nice talks with Cody about other stuff then the CF, as i have had run ins with him in previous ages, so dont twist my words. You should have done your diplo properly and sealed a CF deal before exploring like mad. You told us no to cf, and then you want to us mind read, that you are actually still discussing it and the consensus was a yes? Lol... you let the CF expire and you did NOTHING - and now you are butthurt that we waved you. You had all opportunities to avoid this, and by all i mean a l l. So stop blaming me for this. I was the one to come talk to you in the first place not vice versa.
    Last edited by MrCurious; 03-08-2013 at 15:35.
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