Evil Dragons...

[Feint]

So protective.

[Feint]

We waved you earlier only when both you and your opponent cancel the dragon. The kingdom that you kept hitting cease their hits for more than 12h and even offer a cf. totally different situation. Now in order to help ed , you twisted the facts and use this as a pretext to help Ed firmly secure the win. Yah, you could say u didn't snatch news as well. Anyway, perfect teamwork down there.

[Pak]

So protective.

Well, lets just say that i hate BSers that act all innocent on forum :-)

[X_Y_Z]

ED does have several chances to end the hostility but din wanna do so. ED first tested the situation by sending hits into BoB. BoB retal. When they made a mistake of giving relation, BoB retal with ops. BoB continued with hits on ED TMs . Total no. of hits remained the same for both sides. ED argued that its different when the hits are on TMs and demanded a free hits and a cf. Why? Cos ED want things THEIR WAY. BoB refused to give in to their demand. ED could had chose to end the hostility by moving on, but hell no, this will be a compromise of their greatness having to give in to others. They chose to wave BoB. BoB retal n even tagged to indicate their stand. Being stubborn idiots, BoB kept retal ED hits and even started dragon to indicate their conviction to retal all the way. However, ED probably sees this as the golden reason to keep hitting into BoB for the war. Seriously, if ED really wanted to end the hostility, they could had done so. Along the few days of prolonged hostility, they could had offered CF but they din. Cos ED argued that there was no agreement to the terms of the cf and rather spent their time posting in the forum complaining instead of doing the simple task of offering cf. ED wanted BoB monarch to confirm the terms before they actually offered. no reply from BoB, hostility continued. come on man. how hard is it to offer cf? click of a button? ED simply need to have everyone playing by their rules.

In the meanwhile, BoB kept retal n brought up to hostile for both sides. BoB kept sending dragons over to ED without pressing the button. Without the confirmation from BoB monarch n by not playing by their rules, ED just have the perfect reason to keep hitting BoB. ED have nothing to lose. Try to force a war with BoB or get free acres n move on.

[Feint]

It is ok. Just a game. Seeing how u taunt your opponent earlier(coward, push the button) just like what Ed did to us. What else can we say? Birds of the same feather flock together. Best partnership I ever seen. Jerks , Roughkneck or even Braveheart are so mch better than the two of you. Simply can't fight 1 on 1.

[X_Y_Z]

WTH!l??? Just a coincidental wave from Rusty despite the long hostility gg on? Congrats to ED and their tactics for getting the war with BoB!!! Well planned, well executed and well-deserved! BoB is screwed!!! All their stubborn efforts coming down the drain...

[Feint]

Well, lets just say that i hate BSers that act all innocent on forum :-)

Speaking about yourself?

[X_Y_Z]

At the end of the day, BoB has no position in the rough cruel Utopia world, cos u guys are stubborn idiots trying to fight 1 v 1 on fair grounds. Wake up ur idea BoB!!! BoB should disband soon... Or eventually...

[Feint]

Maybe you could show us the news page that we hit into your hostile????

[Forensick]

Rust sent ED this


Hey,

I saw you guys getting some flack in forums so i jsut wanted to enlighten you on what transpired with BoB

First of all: They double hostiled us when we were in a week long retal war (active hostil)

January 12 of YR8 ? The Friendly Elf (BoB) attacked and stole from Bird bones (RUSTY).
January 12 of YR8 ? Uruk-hai has sent an aid shipment to New Challenges Ahead.
January 12 of YR8 ? Tartarus (BoB) attacked and stole from Bird bones (RUSTY).
January 12 of YR8 ? Crazy Horse (BoB) attacked and stole from Bird bones (RUSTY).
January 12 of YR8 ? Crazy Horse (BoB) attacked and stole from Bird bones (RUSTY).
January 12 of YR8 ? An unknown province from Into the Blue hostile (BoB) attacked and stole from Bird bones (RUSTY).
January 13 of YR8 ? mister snugglebunny has sent an aid shipment to V - VICTORIA - V.
January 13 of YR8 ? Where The Shadows Lie (BoB) attacked and stole from Hippopotomonstrosesquipp​edalio (RUSTY).
January 13 of YR8 ? Where The Shadows Lie (BoB) attacked and stole from Hippopotomonstrosesquipp​edalio (RUSTY).
January 13 of YR8 ? Taimei Returns (BoB) attacked and stole from argofudgeyourself (RUSTY).
January 13 of YR8 ? Im Crazyon Lee (BoB) attacked and stole from argofudgeyourself (RUSTY).
January 13 of YR8 ? An unknown province from Into the Blue hostile (BoB) attacked and stole from The Count of Monte Cristo (RUSTY).
January 14 of YR8 ? We have proposed a ceasefire offer to Into the Blue hostile (BoB).
January 14 of YR8 ? Wasabi Bean Nuts (BoB) attacked and stole from *****ing (RUSTY).
January 14 of YR8 ? Wasabi Bean Nuts (BoB) attacked and stole from *****ing (RUSTY).
January 14 of YR8 ? Wasabi Bean Nuts (BoB) attacked and stole from *****ing (RUSTY).
January 14 of YR8 ? First In Class (BoB) attacked and stole from The Count of Monte Cristo (RUSTY).
January 14 of YR8 ? First In Class (BoB) attacked and stole from The Count of Monte Cristo (RUSTY).

So we just wanted to return the favour to them. Also we figured they would rather declare / war us then you guys. They decided to declare near the end of our wave on the 22nd and we have stopped hits on them since the 22nd.*

These guys are lying / crying and BSing in the forums. They know they double hostiled us, we were just returning the favor! I told them, what goes around comes around and that karmas a B...*

Anyways, best of luck in your war and if you have any questions or comments about anything, let me know

Ryan


So if anything really, ED should be annoyed that Rusty tried to steal our war out from under us

[SillyRabbit]

Those logs don't prove that BoB waved into a hostile. Just shows one wave by BoB into Rusty. And if rusty players were following these forums, it makes it even worse that they thought they should double hostile BoB as we know ED has already been waving BoB for a week or so. Of course we can suspect collusion, but ED usually has enough class to fight battles on their own.

[Zauper]

Those logs don't prove that BoB waved into a hostile. Just shows one wave by BoB into Rusty. And if rusty players were following these forums, it makes it even worse that they thought they should double hostile BoB as we know ED has already been waving BoB for a week or so. Of course we can suspect collusion, but ED usually has enough class to fight battles on their own.

BoB was dumb enough to make 3 hits into Havoc during the retalwar with ED. If ED wanted to be lame, we had justification to wave in.

[Pak]

Maybe you could show us the news page that we hit into your hostile????

For the time from January 1 of YR8 till January 23 of YR8 - 23 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]

** The kingdom of XX:XX ** Our KD in Hostile
Total land exchanged: -71 (50/18)

** The kingdom of XX:XX ** <---- Your KD
Total land exchanged: +140 (16/0)

We were in hostile with another KD all this time and you did 16 hits, still surprised you got a wave from us????

Besides, if we would want to help out ED, we wouldnt have done a Learn wave on you, which we did. Both you guys and we know why we made this wave. So i say it one more time, quit BSing on the forums and save both our and your time. Nuff said.

[Mrmonkey]

The real point is this:

BoB did a learn wave into Rusty right after we accepted a CF after a 3 days hostile. Our kd was heavilly battered from it, so BoB decided to do free learn wave as they knew we could never take them up on war it at that point.

So thats the real deal here, sure you waved right after we took the CF, but you knew we had been in a long hostile (tagged + check paper) and took advantage of it.
Hence, here we are, us doing a retal wave when the timing is rly bad for your kd, BoB, sounds familair ? A case of what comes around goes around and all there is to it.

[SillyRabbit]

How long should they have waited? 1 hour? 6 hours? 12? 2 days? If the cf was signed, your previous hostile had ended. Utopia has always been about timing. Their wave may have been when you were weakened, but it wasn't a double hostile. What rusty just did is clear double hostile. I personally don't care about any of the kds involved, but I would imagine you've given BoB good reason to hit you guys back at an unsavory time.