Evil Dragons...

[Elixir]

How long should they have waited? 1 hour? 6 hours? 12? 2 days? If the cf was signed, your previous hostile had ended. Utopia has always been about timing. Their wave may have been when you were weakened, but it wasn't a double hostile. What rusty just did is clear double hostile. I personally don't care about any of the kds involved, but I would imagine you've given BoB good reason to hit you guys back at an unsavory time.

and this conflict will not end here..

[StratOcastle]

My experience with BoB is that they wave and move on. They promptly agree to CF when their business is done. At no point were we put off by their timing. Nobody likes being waved, but they never pushed the fact we were in no position to answer. Can't be said for a lot of kingdoms.

[Pak]

2 hits in hostile and Wave the tick direclty after CF. I think they understand why we retailed, which is perfectly normal for a KD to do. And to try cover it by saying we are teaming with ED is just... LOL

[zmasternr1]

If BoB was that afraid of ooh hits they should have either cf'ed us or pushed the button.
Instead half their kd was doing plunders 24/7. 3 hits into havoc for example.

ED have only hit BoB during this conflict. No ooh hits.
We too have eaten randoms though.

[Feint]

Lol. Nice logs. Too bad I am too lazy to paste those news page. I just know for a fact, rusty hit into people war. Out of those 20 over hits, they claimed kingdom page not updated. Guess they didn't take intel as well when doing hits. All out of that many hits, none realised we got war status. Regard to hit on havoc , my guys pm an apology. Well, you could have a noob giving ppl relations, so do we. And we got tons of spells and damages received.

[Feint]

For rusty, your opponent had refuse to war for days and even tag. He even posted in forum to ask for help. We didn't interfere as we are interested only in war as I had posted in that thread earlier. We saw no hits from that kingdom on you. And both sides cancel dragon to each other in subsequent tick. Only then we start waving. But not for free learns. We wanted war. U offered cf, we did accept. And didn't do like what u did to your opponent. And u did a great job by having selectively news copy and sent to ED to justify your actions. Haha. So you wan to let ED know you did them a favor?

[Feint]

No. First, you let ppl mistaken the two of your kingdom need to double team BoB to get a war win( still a ? That you guys could still be in cahoot) Second, ED already got a 2 mill nw lead. With your wave, even if Ed won, that will be an ugly win. Well, I know you won't care. Cos win is still a win. Ed so desperate to top the chart?

[silverfox]

I like how when a KD hits BoB it's automatically assumed that ED must have asked them too, even though earlier in this thread you could see a prov in Rusty threatening ED last age.

About the taunt, it's not that there "was nothing about it", we wanted to war BoB when we sent it however we also messaged other KDs looking for a war at the same time. Why did BoB get the taunt? Because Parth wanted to send them one, isn't that the whole reason for them, to "taunt people into a fight"?

BoB said they didn't want a war even though we offered them a lot of things to get us on even ground, the reason we grew is that the KDs who were scouting us were bigger and we felt we needed banks to help vs. any threats like Freakstyle who were constantly scouting us. Had nothing to do with out growing KDs nor trying to run for them.

We then had a war offer for 8 days time, so we were doing random plunders and learns, which lead to Koko hitting BoB x2, after that has all been covered, this wasn't some excuse to go hostile with BoB and be bullies the simple fact is ONE prov in ED made a mistake and BoB thought they could op the whole KD and hit 2 other random provs.

I don't care if Koko had of hit them OOW, I wouldn't take that s**t from any KD where they think they can retal everyone for one prov. Many people might think a KD should be accountable for the actions of their provs and I'd agree, however life isn't fair and neither is utopia, we're the bigger KD and BoB over-stepped a line with their retals, we could have just waved them right there and then but tried diplomacy which was refused.

I really couldn't care if people don't believe the version of events which I've posted through this thread, I have no reason to lie. If we wanted to just hit BoB then we would have, why the hell would we care if people think we're "bullies" for doing it? The fact that we offered multiple CF chances to BoBs leadership should totally destroy the theory that we had this planned all along, you might want to remember that it was players in BoB who came into this thread and told us they were going to EoA retal war us not the other way around.

[Feint]

ED, let enjoy the war. I don't care what had happened. Enough of trolling. Though very much weaken by the 30 over hits just before we declare, we will try put on our best shot. With regards to your relationship with rusty, I will just put it behind at the moment. Thanks for those who had speak up for us. Appreciated it.

[Feint]

We assumed because it would be the best time to get an outside kingdom to wave us for 2 good reasons. 1 is to weaken us ( just when hostile point will be max out within 2 waves)and 2 is to force a war by choosing between Ed or rusty instead of dragging. The retal War will definitely go into war unless we sat back and let u feed as u had mentioned earlier. Anyone would have guess war would happen since we had been retalling non stop. And rusty hit us when our hostile points are 138-200. Such a good timing.Why not wave us earlier or later ? U can't blame us for suspecting. When we waved rusty earlier, cf offered, we accept. We didn't see any issue on hitting into their hostile.

[Feint]

A fact that we will remember for sure- rusty hit into active hostile and into war. ED may be involved. But I would Not point my finger at them cos it is me who need to have evidence to prove ED is guilty but I do not have any. Fair enough?

[Feint]

The real point is this:

BoB did a learn wave into Rusty right after we accepted a CF after a 3 days hostile. Our kd was heavilly battered from it, so BoB decided to do free learn wave as they knew we could never take them up on war it at that point.

So thats the real deal here, sure you waved right after we took the CF, but you knew we had been in a long hostile (tagged + check paper) and took advantage of it.
Hence, here we are, us doing a retal wave when the timing is rly bad for your kd, BoB, sounds familair ? A case of what comes around goes around and all there is to it.

Claps. This clear the air. We did not hit Into your hostile. So on what ground you retal us back while we in active hostile?

[Pak]

Seems like you have a hard time understanding that if you wave a KD (especially when they are in a bad situation and a underdog), there is a BIG possibility they will retail (As we did) and there is nothing strange about that. And here are some other points you wrote:

I just know for a fact, rusty hit into people war. Out of those 20 over hits, they claimed kingdom page not updated.

Did a SN on you just now and here are the results:
February 22 of YR9 V - VICTORIA - V (XX:XX) attacked and stole from YouKnowWho (XX:XX).
February 22 of YR9 Bird bones (XX:XX) attacked and stole from Wasabi Bean Nuts (XX:XX).
February 22 of YR9 V - VICTORIA - V (XX:XX) attacked and stole from YouKnowWho (XX:XX).
February 22 of YR9 Bird bones (XX:XX) attacked and stole from Wasabi Bean Nuts (XX:XX).
February 22 of YR9 Orc Smash (XX:XX) attacked and stole from The Friendly Elf (XX:XX).
February 22 of YR9 We have declared WAR on Evil Dragons HOSTILE (XX:XX)!

We already had started doing wave on you before you declared so please get your facts straight.

For rusty, your opponent had refuse to war for days and even tag. He even posted in forum to ask for help. We didn't interfere as we are interested only in war as I had posted in that thread earlier. We saw no hits from that kingdom on you.

As I've said i hate BSers and the one that posted in forum was even a bigger BSer then you. He was just looking for outside help while they were still hitting us. Will not discuss this matter any further about our last hostility here. You guys didnt see any hits from them on us?

** The kingdom of XX:XX ** <--- The KD we were hostile with
Total land exchanged: XXX (118/xxx)

Once again, you seem very off with your facts. So stop BSing in the forum.

And u did a great job by having selectively news copy and sent to ED to justify your actions. Haha. So you wan to let ED know you did them a favor?

Serioulsy, WHY would we send all our News copy with aid etc and other IRRELEVANT info to ED. The info that is needed is sent to them that you waved us, that is the point we wanted to make with the PM. Cant even believe that I actually have to explain this one.

[Pak]

Claps. This clear the air. We did not hit Into your hostile. So on what ground you retal us back while we in active hostile?

First of, you did make 2 hits IN our hostile on diffrent occassions.
We had been in 3days in hostile with the other KD when you decided to do a KD wave on us RIGHT after we CFd. And in those conditions we cant possibly be in shape of defending ourself since we were in the shape of a KD that have just went OOW. Yet you decided to wave us. Now we retailed and hoped for a war. If you didnt notice we also changed our KD name right after your hits "We dont forget". You can cry all you want but please dont be so n00bish and try to cover your "future loss" by saying we and ED were teamed up.

Karma is a B...

[Feint]

Why don't u post those hits after war is declared. You are so good in choosing evidence that only show one side of the story. I didn't get my fact right? Didn't u hit while we in active hostile with Ed and still continue hit close to 20 times after war declared. If you talking abt karma, then u should send only 2 hits now. And wait for the cf between bob and Ed to end, then u wave straight away. Any person in clear mind would have understand this if you wan to talk abt karma.