Evil Dragons...

[Parth]

Uhm, this was an unexpected but welcome turn of the thread. The flaming gets old after a while...I just got to make one comment on it, for those who view us as the bully here, and for the confusion around the alleged CF offers. I repeatedly offered CF's through in game messages to the monarch and once to the co-monarch. I have ofc the messages in my outbox. Before hostiles escalated we demanded 3 hits for CF. After our first wave, the day after, and the day after that we offered CF for a time frame of their liking without any conditions or demands. If anything, WE have been bullied. That said, a small war update. I can start with the dragon business, thats easy enough to explain: We're out of NW range to send dragon. It could well be that we drop some net in order to be able to start a dragon, or we dont, we'll see. As for slaying, we didnt really care about the emerald dragon so much, having like 10 wh's and 7 tm's.
As for war tactics, I must say Im pretty confused myself. Its some kind of anti warring...the game mechanics is pretty stupid tbh. You can chain a prov down to 200 acres and he can sit with 100k off and land def and farm honor. Feels like both KD's are afraid to take any land, which is what warring should be about. Who wants an attacker who grows out of range to gain honor, and is an open shell to opping? So I guess thats why NW is dropping so slowly, cause no one really goes for neither gains or deep chains. BoB is hitting our TM's pretty hard, we're trying to grind down their big off's, thats I guess the bottom line.

I think it was mentioned earlier that ED was camping troops home and hitting undeads when their armies are home to destroy offense on their undeads. It looks like they were also following a similar tactic of chaining down BoBs elves + massacring.

In the other thread, it seems like there is a one sided emerald dragon in BoB's favor... which kind of has me baffled looking at the large humans that ED has. They must be focused on aiding up their small provinces rather than investing in a drake / slaying.

[kurei87]

ED will lose then.

[Feint]

ED slay dragon with their big human within a tick and started one against BOB. They are in serious mode

[Wee Sin]

Obviously the camping strategy to destroy offense is one which is used by very active kingdoms. Efficiency? Im not sure myself but it did proof some sense of strength since ED are much bigger in terms of military to just not over grow themselves but Raze/Massacre at the desired size. Those campers weren't eating MS anyway. They are online and would have taken the MV from a peer. ED tanked the Emerald for days, of course, BoB sent that Emerald because they wanted to destroy their TMs which weren't immune to dragon therefore, not killing the dragon was definitely a mistake I would see.

[coorsprg]

Pak I don't even know why your trying to justify I pmed you personally saying we were gonna war ed and I still recieved hits so just stfu...and you think all your hits were fair for two hits on you....I am just say I am glad you think that way.

[silvos]

not killing the dragon was definitely a mistake I would see.

They had been doing ooh plunders the entire time they were being massacred down. They had the second dragon already funded. From this point there are four options.

1. Kill both dragons, overextending resources while letting them fund a third dragon with their economies still intact. This fails a basic risk vs reward metric.
2. Kill the first, instantly get the second, and let them begin to fund a third while their economies are still intact. See above.
3. Don't kill any dragons. This is foolish.
4. Let the first fly away, disable their economies in the meantime, and instantly kill the second. Economies now damaged, unable to send a third in a timely manner.

The correct decision was made.

[tetley]

The correct decision was made.

"boom"

[Korp]

Pak I don't even know why your trying to justify I pmed you personally saying we were gonna war ed and I still recieved hits so just stfu...and you think all your hits were fair for two hits on you....I am just say I am glad you think that way.

Dont do the crime if you cant do the time.

[MrCurious]

It seems your TMs are grinded down Parth, and the nw gap is closing fast. It looks to me like bob is gaining the upperhand here?

[fawk]

It seems your TMs are grinded down Parth, and the nw gap is closing fast. It looks to me like bob is gaining the upperhand here?

NW dropped was to be expected with BOB chaining t/ms is the only strategy they know.
NW drops when t/ms get chained and attackers are fireballs and m/s.

Hard to drop BOB t/ms because they are already small.

That being said, this is a war ED can't lose.
Losing honor on the other hand is something that will probably happen since they are being top fed by t/ms and undead/clerics.

ED faeries are lost now. When your faeries get chained to 400 acres, then an enemy undead gets chained to 400 acres and has 8000 ghouls coming home, your faery is going to feel the pain.
NW gap is about 1.3 mil now. I dont think it will ever go under 1 mil this war.

ED needs a 1 sided dragon up on BOB top priorityl
Then work on chaining all t/ms (including that elf thats still alive) down.
Then work on chaining highest MO low enough to he releases elites.
Those are obviously hard to accomplish because ED attackers are all over 2k acres, and bob attackers and t/ms are generally smaller. It will be hard to chain them.

ED can't lose, but they can lose honor unfortunately. This will probably drag on for a week or two.

[MrCurious]

NW dropped was to be expected with BOB chaining t/ms is the only strategy they know.
NW drops when t/ms get chained and attackers are fireballs and m/s.

Hard to drop BOB t/ms because they are already small.

That being said, this is a war ED can't lose.
Losing honor on the other hand is something that will probably happen since they are being top fed by t/ms and undead/clerics.

ED faeries are lost now. When your faeries get chained to 400 acres, then an enemy undead gets chained to 400 acres and has 8000 ghouls coming home, your faery is going to feel the pain.
NW gap is about 1.3 mil now. I dont think it will ever go under 1 mil this war.

ED needs a 1 sided dragon up on BOB top priorityl
Then work on chaining all t/ms (including that elf thats still alive) down.
Then work on chaining highest MO low enough to he releases elites.
Those are obviously hard to accomplish because ED attackers are all over 2k acres, and bob attackers and t/ms are generally smaller. It will be hard to chain them.

ED can't lose, but they can lose honor unfortunately. This will probably drag on for a week or two.

If you notice the way BoB is set up, they always keep their T/Ms small, to make them less interesting to chain / harder to chain due to having to hit down sending quite alot of offense in the process. That paired with a strong hitter force (undeads) make them difficult to war. They always chain enemy T/Ms first, while softening up fat hitters on the side - i have not seen them use a different strat. I wouldn't count BoB out of this yet, no disrespect for ED at all, but BoB are top feeding with ops + chains, and that usually generates a much higher damage output. Its no point in being 4k acres (ED) with no peasants and a NW that makes you have to hit way way down in NW when hitting/opping. I guess we see, but its not as onesided as portrayed. Again, no offense intended towards ED - i am just brainstorming without having any intel to back it up.

[Feint]

We have big tm but all were massacre and trad march down during hostile..

[fawk]

If you notice the way BoB is set up, they always keep their T/Ms small, to make them less interesting to chain / harder to chain due to having to hit down sending quite alot of offense in the process. That paired with a strong hitter force (undeads) make them difficult to war. They always chain enemy T/Ms first, while softening up fat hitters on the side - i have not seen them use a different strat. I wouldn't count BoB out of this yet, no disrespect for ED at all, but BoB are top feeding with ops + chains, and that usually generates a much higher damage output. Its no point in being 4k acres (ED) with no peasants and a NW that makes you have to hit way way down in NW when hitting/opping. I guess we see, but its not as onesided as portrayed. Again, no offense intended towards ED - i am just brainstorming without having any intel to back it up.

They usually have big t/ms and small undeads running suicide offense.
Yes being 4k acres with no peasants just means you will eventaullly lose all your military to bottom feeding and be useless.

[silverfox]

So much theory crafting, so much missing the obvious.

[fawk]

So much theory crafting, so much missing the obvious.

You contribute nothing to this thread. well done.