Evil Dragons...

[nataku]

I don't see any problems beating BoB again tbh, their activity is good but strategywise nothing special. All they do is maxgain with their huge undeads.
Once we dropped their income, started killing provs and gained dragon advantage they surrendered within hours. A day more of war and we would have farmed back all honor we were down. (Which I guess they realized).

A war with bob will always mean choosing between honor and warwin. And since they don't do any form of diplomacy and don't mind softening up enemies in week long hostile the prospect isn't very tempting.

Yawns.
Does the entire ED do this?

Blow own trumpets?

Geez..thought one or two might be different.. this one might even be deluded...

[FleD]

Yawns.
Does the entire ED do this?

Blow own trumpets?

Geez..thought one or two might be different.. this one might even be deluded...

You're right we have 1 or 2 who are different. So the other 23 might sound like an orcest to you ;)

[Parth]

You seem a little obsessive with trumpets, something you wanna tell us?

Yawns.
Does the entire ED do this?

Blow own trumpets?

Geez..thought one or two might be different.. this one might even be deluded...

[nataku]

You seem a little obsessive with trumpets, something you wanna tell us?

Hmm. It is just like how obessed you guys boast about yourselves.

[zmasternr1]

Fact is BoB lost fair and square. Some people don't seem to accept that in here.
Doesn't matter if you withdraw with gains...as the game work nowadays you can be up 100k acres,
but if enemy economy is better you lose if the conflict stretches long enough. We realized this vs Strippers last age and had to eat it up on the forums afterwards.

The moment you press the surrender button you have lost the war. BoB would not have surrendered if they thought there was more to gain by continuing the war.
When we started killing their smallest provs and start taking honor back by hitting high honor provs they quickly withdrew.

ED last war was far from top shape too. We had lots of people on summer vacation.

[Parth]

And any talk about BoB being at a disadvantage...they picked the fight. We offered CF several times in messages to monarch and once to steward during hostile. They did not respond. Then some third part came in and waved them - at this point they could have taken this third kd to war if they wanted, they could have CF'ed both kd's and gone fort if the wanted. But they were set to war us. They lost the war, and afterwards one of their players, feint, runs around here hurling insults on the forums. If BoB wanna go again, ED will be up for the fight. We'll welcome it with open arms. The only thing Ive said is that we wont make the first move on BoB after winning - cause we find that a bit small.

Fact is BoB lost fair and square. Some people don't seem to accept that in here.
Doesn't matter if you withdraw with gains...as the game work nowadays you can be up 100k acres,
but if enemy economy is better you lose if the conflict stretches long enough. We realized this vs Strippers last age and had to eat it up on the forums afterwards.

The moment you press the surrender button you have lost the war. BoB would not have surrendered if they thought there was more to gain by continuing the war.
When we started killing their smallest provs and start taking honor back by hitting high honor provs they quickly withdrew.

ED last war was far from top shape too. We had lots of people on summer vacation.

[Forensick]

i would consider feints mouth a first move....

[nataku]

Fact is BoB lost fair and square. Some people don't seem to accept that in here.
Doesn't matter if you withdraw with gains...as the game work nowadays you can be up 100k acres,
but if enemy economy is better you lose if the conflict stretches long enough. We realized this vs Strippers last age and had to eat it up on the forums afterwards.

The moment you press the surrender button you have lost the war. BoB would not have surrendered if they thought there was more to gain by continuing the war.
When we started killing their smallest provs and start taking honor back by hitting high honor provs they quickly withdrew.

ED last war was far from top shape too. We had lots of people on summer vacation.

A rewind.

Slight attempt to disguise yet another boast.

[alan03]

Yawns.
Blow own trumpets?

i think this is the point of this thread lol

[silverfox]

Noticed the Ed thread was about to fall of the page so thought I would post. Obviously there out celebrating there win to hard to post in here. Since into the blue was an easy war win and they lack creativity in war and are very predictable , will you be hitting them for another war win, which will get you pretty close to the war win crown? I'm sure into the blue would love to learn more from a Nobel warring kd of your calibre.

It's mostly myself who posts here and I didn't feel anything constructive needed to be added after BoB surrendered, plus I've been out the country and preparing for that so posting crap on the forums wasn't a high priority.

As for WW crown, I personally couldn't give a damn about it, it's of zero worth as has been discussed earlier, you can't compare 25 prov KDs bashing ones with 22 provs or 20 prov vs 20 prov war KDs and pretend a chart made of the stats proves a thing, ED is a better war KD than BoB regardless of who does what in which charts.

Why wouldn't ED beat BoB again? Your war tactics were atrocious, you'd half disable someone's econ then leave them, then there's the hilarity of chaining fairies in a KD with banks and Dwarves running WPA, since I'm one of those fairies it was pretty cute to be MSed 3 times in 2 hours with around half a mana pool used on them.

Simple fact is BoB thought they could drag hostile, push button and win. You can keep talking crap about ED being bigger, yet we beat UM who iirc are a decent size this age and last age when they were 25% bigger so stop crying about size difference especially after you push the button and were always going to.

Feint you're legitimately one of the stupidest muppets I've seen in this game and I've known a lot of RoRos over the years, your KD is trash and I have no idea why people in ED feel the need to be polite to you, we've warred better KDs this age and combined I've not seen as many dumbass posters from one KD. You might think that's just me randomly insulting you and it's fine if you think that but it's also the truth, nice to see you still calling Rusty our allies...

[Feint]

Why you so mad? Didn't u guys claim you won the war over dechauery last age after you ppl wd? Saying that you wd with more acres and etc. So you actually angry with what you have done in the past? So you know how annoying you are last age right ? Haha

[Feint]

To be frank, Ed standard was far from those I seen from RK, jerks or stripper. With that many advantages you got in war, you can't win convincingly. But one thing you are really good at. And I would say that you are the best I ever seen. Trolling. Lol.

[Feint]

Thread has just descended into stupidity, if anyone has any legitimate questions regarding the war then they can ask and I'll try to give an objective view point from what I know/remember.

I don't know why people keep going on about who won or lost the war, ED WD and we lost honour lead I'd say it's quite conclusive of the outcome, however if we'd have been up 20k land and #1 honour then WD to repump people would still have claimed ED lost due to not having the war win on page. A win is objective and depends on conditions, ED lost, there's no discussion here.

Towards my point I made in my last post, ED did lose the war rather than Debauchery win it, if you'd like to argue that point is wrong then feel free to cover what Debauchery did strategically to win the war. Their attackers got turned into defenseless provs first few days of war while their T/Ms did nothing besides magic def out of their asses, they tried 2 NM/prop chains the second of which failed on a huge scale and they didn't bother to do anymore.

Prop and MS was the only things which lost ED this war (our hybrids large growth didn't help much either). So yeah, we were naive on the ability to deep chain provs and remove them from fight (something a KD had already offered to war us over so they could see what is more effective), we screwed up tactically in not hitting their elves while we could and blocking their halfers ease of access (not knowing props strength) and having a week long war followed by another week long one was probably a very bad idea.

My opinion hasn't changed, ED is still the better KD. If you're trying to tell me it was Debaucherys "plan" to lose 25% of their land and drop outside the T25 in honour then fair enough, I'll say that's a terrible plan. We failed to follow up our initial few days and paid the price, a lesson which won't be forgotten.

Switch roles.

[silverfox]

Once again you're back with your stunningly idiotic posts.

No-ones mad, I'm sure in your head you probably feel like you're being hilarious but let me explain in pictorial form as you don't like to/can't read more than a few lines of text:



Just to cover briefly:

- No ED haven't claimed they won vs. Debauchery, one person posting something wrong from their own personal opinion in the past means nothing.

- Ok sure we were and are terrible. I mean the fact that we; shelled pretty much all of your KD, PKed a province [would have killed more if it'd dragged on] and managed to screw your attackers over so they couldn't send out and removed ~20-30% of their offense in one hour & made you surrender a war you were losing badly is just childs play. Remind me what BoBs tactics were again? Oh yeah, leave our humans peons alone so they could ToG massive amounts, max gain for honour and attack T/Ms.

- You'd almost think you weren't one of the idiots who overlapped MS on me, but sadly you were:

http://utopia-game.com/wol/game/kingdom_intel/X/X

Free tip from me about the Espionage page.

[Korp]

You so mad silverfox, dont be mad.