we didn;t start the thread or start the arguement...Originally Posted by rose89
we didn;t start the thread or start the arguement...
never claimed it was honourable, never wanted to have to do it, short answer to all of this is talk to people instead of ignoring them because u feel superior.
Once again option to talk was always open and always will b
off topic, btw this is for Mr. Smart Frankenstein
An EOWCF is between two kingdoms, to all outside parties those kingdoms are in WAR status, as displayed on throne intel and kingdom page. So to say you are hitting into an EOWCF is inaccurate, YOU are hitting into a war. It's designed to limit outside interference for a reason, so if you hit into it unwarranted, don't cry when it comes back to bite you in the ass.
It's that simple.
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Did I mention you or your KD? I mean KD who wan to revenge. There are hundreds of KDs who are revenging out there. If you choose to admit it, I can't help it.
I view it different because the conflict ends when one side withdraws(or much more uncommonly a MP is reached), after that there are no more hits or op's traded, the conflict has ended. Therefore it is not a part of the war because there is no ongoing conflict, it is separate and different.
Eowcf has not always existed, it is a mechanism that was created to limit vulturing and give the warring parts time and chance to recover, it was a good change and to make that recovery possible both parties needs to be afforded some protection but that does not mean the conflict hasn't ended.
Personally I don't give a diddly rats ass about how many places the game mentions war when in postwar cf, it is not war as there is no conflict. Sure it's damn dirty to interfere with somebody's recovery but much less so than interfering in an ongoing active conflict. However in the current case discussed I think the punishment were appropriate.
I think your act of repeatedly interfering with their recovery is dishonourable, their punishment is not so, it's appropriate. You could have waited until they were out of eowcf before engaging them, that would have been the honourable thing to do.
Had they hit/oped into your war without reason or justification then yes that would have been dishonourable, but that is not the case.
No I won't because I don't think so, their choice of punishment was appropriate, it is only unfortunate that the kd you're warring had to be involved in this tho that is mostly your fault, if you interfere with people you cannot reasonably expect them to not interfere with you.[/QUOTE]
Wrong again, the argument started in another thread and was started by the kd who did the plundering. (http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...-an-active-war)
The creator of that thread apparently requested that it be closed because he couldn't take people not sharing his views.
Last edited by Elldallan; 23-08-2013 at 12:47.
What you think is irrelevant, the game tells you it's war. You hit into my war, I'll hit into yours.
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you said my kingdom started the arguement, this is not true
Obviously EOWCF is war, as stated in the game by messages in kd-page and throne page. Kd A (or was it B) hit kd C during that period, they deserve punishement.
I think pk-ing various players of kd A is disproportionate and maybe I would have done otherwise (hitting like x2 of what I was hit), but, on the other hand, kd A knows now what happens when you hit into EOWCF. I'm sure they won't do it again (except against kd C, who with they have a grunch now). So mission acomplished.
I've been playing this game for many ages and every age since the EOWcf period was introduced. And I can't recall being robbed more than once or twice for all the ages.
The main reason is probably because it isn't worth it.
I believe that 90 % of the Utopian community don't do robberies in EOWCF, except for new players who don't know the basics.
Saints put this robbery into a system, and tried to get away with it. Unfortunately they did it enough times to stuble upon a kd that didn't like it at all, and that was willing to kill off provinces to teach them a lesson.
I can't see anything wrong here, from both parties, and it suprises me that Saints are complaining so much about it.
In Utopia you can do whatever you want, as long as you can get away with it, and as long as you don't care about what other people think of you or your kd.
But my personal opinion is that it's quite lame to rob ppl in EOWCF, that period is there because of a reason, and people stock gc and money in order to get most out of the short period of time.
Saints can now go back and revenge the PK provinces, or settle this. It's all about who is stronger.
But my guess they will be quite much GB involved because now the woke the bear in all the other kds that feel wronged, and that's what this is about.
If you don't like what's being done to you, bite back.
But morale of the story is, do not think you re invincible.
Of course, I however don't hit or op into people's eowcf's or wars tho because I agree that it is wrong.
It is just that it is my opinion that war is very separate from eowcf and interfering with the former is dirtier than interfering with the latter.
I don't think that eowcf is part of war because the conflict has ended as reflected by the fact that neither side can attack or op each other(but they can send dragons however which I think is inconsistent, it should also be blocked, put the dragon at 0gc but don't send it until eowcf has ended).
Your definition is incorrect
EOWCF is between the two kingdom that has engaged in that war. Which results that both participated kingdom unable to hit each other.
It has no meaning to outsiders who did not engaged in that war. So if you think it' OK to hit into it, then by definition you are a douche and welcomes outsiders hit you when you are on war irregardless it's active or eowcf. This douche move is called, OOW hits.
re-read some latest post: +1 on what dharan said :)
Last edited by fenrost; 23-08-2013 at 13:06.
You can't put it on 0gc, because it has a tendency to fly away and reak havoc as soon as you hit that magic number :P
That being said, there are 2 sides here: People who respect the eowcf and people who dont. If you are willing to risk getting hit at a very inconvenient time, by all means, rob into eowcf - if you're not, dont rob.
It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.
Just to get facts straight here...saints has not only hit into one of our wars one time but 3 different times... Once after our 1st war which we lost, and once after our 3rd war.... Both time just ignored.... now comes war number 5 and they hit 4x Into war and countless rob vaults while tagged up " hostile stay out" and then later tagged something about button draggers...we sent them a message warning them that if they hit or opped into is again we would Pk and they would not win their next war... And what do u know provinces from saints continue to rob us and our message was ignored not even replied too... they were fairly warned of their actions and consequences for them....
Titan reborn is our monarch and is one of the most honorable and fair players to lead most.any kingdom I've played in... Even on par with Mono when I players for her in BOH.
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