What mattered in this comparison was skill/performance in war, ww is not neccessary representative of that and neither is performance in nw/land. I'm not disputing that SWEA can't whore/****play and dealbreak on par/better than the rest of the topkd's(since thats pretty much what top nw/land was all about last age). What I'm trying to say is that SWEA performed in a very lackluster way with significantly less activity than you'd normally expect from a top kingdom and that their performance therefore is non-indicative of how any given competent war kingdom would do against a whore kingdom in an actual war.