ED Vs PewPew

[Lurking Ghost]

99% of the server never made such wars. So the statement about not warring AMA = fake war is bs. We are talking about 2 wars in 2 ages. Hardly enough to turn our words against us.

It really doesn't matter, the problem is that you put yourself as the guardians of ethics here, while making dirty agreements behind ppl backs, and deny it allthough it's so obvious. Many ppl in our kd respect AMA players, but they dislike Elit and Proteus for obvious reasons. And the criticizm wasn't aimed at an average AMA player.
A good example last set, you made deals with kd that if PewPew waves a kd, AMA gets to wave for the acres too, it's lame like hell. (And those deals were made long before any so called "backstabbing" by your allies took place)

And now you try to dictate what is a real war and what's not.

What's most disturbing is that it took you 9 days to get an advantage, because your leadership made poor decisions, and now you think we give ED "slack", which is completely untrue and just lame. It was your bad play that kept you in war for 9 days !

You should take a look at your leadership because obviously they can explain all their wrong decisions on some other factors, as PewPew or some other non existent problems.

[Soul_Hunter]

All I see is that you claim we can't say a fake war is fake cause we have done dirty things in the past. And that is nonsense. Here again 1 argument after another:

"It really doesn't matter, the problem is that you put yourself as the guardians of ethics here, while making dirty agreements behind ppl backs, and deny it allthough it's so obvious."

Pewpew, SWEA, Strippers and Simians all did dirty play against us using as an excuse our dirt play = playing guardians of thics, while making dirty agreements behind ppls backs and deny although it was obvious (simians no included in the deals part).

"Many ppl in our kd respect AMA players, but they dislike Elit and Proteus for obvious reasons."
Up until last age, the only ppl i saw trash talking Elit were Absalom. Then what i said earlier happened. Also last age there were many more reasons to call us dirty or hate us, w/o Proteus in the kd. This age we did not fell in the trap and we didn't hit into fake wars, the result is now Proteus is the reason for the hatred of the simple minded.

"And now you try to dictate what is a real war and what's not."

And how exactly are we dictating? We simply express frustration. We haven't done anything to impose or dictate the outcome of the war. You simply throw accusations w/o thinking.

"A good example last set, you made deals with kd that if PewPew waves a kd, AMA gets to wave for the acres too, it's lame like hell."

A deal made with Pewpew. We are dirty for it, and pewpew fake wars are just fine :).

But ofc all that doesn't really matter. You will always find a reason to be against us. Cause the alternative is to beat us in war.

[fuzzy|]

lets just call it a Designer War (like Designer Babies) modified to suit a certain outcome

[Tedurur]

Hmmm... ED has 1 land/nw crown which they won in a-war age and 1 honor crown, which they friendly farmed from their buttbuddies from PBs, PewPew has nothing at all. Did I forget anything important?

lol? Not trying to slag anyone but, with well over 100k players the competition was way stiffer back then. We won that crown despite (or should I say thanks to) getting double teamed that age. So yeah, it was a war age for us as well. We were also #1 nw/land for pretty much the whole age, long before the alliance **** started. As for the honor crown, guess I cant say much about that one since I stoped leading and playing in ED (and utopia) shortly after the NW/land win

[Soul_Hunter]

Well for sure when you won the crown u didn't get doubled, nor your competition didn't get free farm for 150k acres so please do not compare us to you.

[Tox]

I'd appreciate it if AMA and Jerks could find it in themselves to keep their drama out of our war thread, and stop antagonizing our players both in the forums and on IRC.

Anyone who still thinks this war is fake, please keep it to yourself, the evidence on the contrary mounts with every hit.

Edit: Except fuzzy. Cuz he is a bare.

[Lurking Ghost]

All I see is that you claim we can't say a fake war is fake cause we have done dirty things in the past. And that is nonsense. Here again 1 argument after another:

"It really doesn't matter, the problem is that you put yourself as the guardians of ethics here, while making dirty agreements behind ppl backs, and deny it allthough it's so obvious."

Pewpew, SWEA, Strippers and Simians all did dirty play against us using as an excuse our dirt play = playing guardians of thics, while making dirty agreements behind ppls backs and deny although it was obvious (simians no included in the deals part).

Well all I can say, is that there were no plans to deny your crown or anything for over 2/3rds of the set. Even though there was a frustration over you actions. But after a while we realized that no matter what we did, everything seemed set up.
So yeah ppl got tired and their focus was to deny you crown. What's intresting is that at least 3 other kds felt the same way. You can say whatever you want, but that's reality. It's a fatal misstake from Elit, he did everything to stay ahead of everyone no matter the cost of allies, nor relations between other kingdoms. It ended up backfiring in an way that he couldn't even imagine.

"Many ppl in our kd respect AMA players, but they dislike Elit and Proteus for obvious reasons."
Up until last age, the only ppl i saw trash talking Elit were Absalom. Then what i said earlier happened. Also last age there were many more reasons to call us dirty or hate us, w/o Proteus in the kd. This age we did not fell in the trap and we didn't hit into fake wars, the result is now Proteus is the reason for the hatred of the simple minded.

Our goal is clear, we will do what is possible within the game rules to achieve our goals.
Why do you think Proteus is so disliked by so many ? Try guessing.

I had no opinion about him until 2 sets ago, I only knew he was in a successful kd (rage). then I learned not to trust him with anything and that he twists everything both verbal and written agreements.
And I also realized he is big fake. He only shows up when things are good(winning) takes credit, and is gone missing when things go bad (loosing), tons of excuses that he doesn't have time etc.
I wonder how You tolerate that, he did the same thing in the war against PewPew, it was clear that someone else was in charge after 48 hrs.

"And now you try to dictate what is a real war and what's not."

And how exactly are we dictating? We simply express frustration. We haven't done anything to impose or dictate the outcome of the war. You simply throw accusations w/o thinking.

You call this a FW, you call the war last set FW. To me it's obvious. Including yourself. And you have now quite many posts about our strategy and what we should do and what we should not.
Thing is, ED play this better than you do, and therefor we can't use exactly the same strategy as we did the war against you. You fail to see that. Your leadership has really blinded you.
We wanna war, and we wanna war similar kingdoms. (We don't like hitting much weaker kingdoms but we will do that if it is needed)

Well for sure when you won the crown u didn't get doubled, nor your competition didn't get free farm for 150k acres so please do not compare us to you.

Nobody gets free farm. And you didn't get doubled.
When our kd was formed, it had a purpose, and one of the purposes was to remove the the biggest kingdoms "bullying" rights.
Just because you re big and nasty, you won't get your acres for free from us.

And if more kingdoms would fight back, this game would be more intresting.

"A good example last set, you made deals with kd that if PewPew waves a kd, AMA gets to wave for the acres too, it's lame like hell."
A deal made with Pewpew. We are dirty for it, and pewpew fake wars are just fine :).
But ofc all that doesn't really matter. You will always find a reason to be against us. Cause the alternative is to beat us in war.

No, you re really wrong there. We have no "reasons" to be against you. Actually we were minding our own buissnes and had not any intentions of warring you, screwing you over or anything like that. We know that you wanted the crown, and we know that we didn't. So go ahead, but you couldn't resist proving some kind of a point.
And you proved it, you won against us, still you re unhappy, so my question is: What's wrong with you ?

You have a leadership that invests a lot of time to make us look bad on forums (especially Proteus), and deliberatly spreading rumors and statements that go all the way from cheating to fakewarring. You expect us to just take it ?

[fuzzy|]

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Edit: Except fuzzy. Cuz he is a bare.

herrow toxxy woxxy ;)

[Korp]

Well for sure when you won the crown u didn't get doubled, nor your competition didn't get free farm for 150k acres so please do not compare us to you.

"getting double teamed that age." :D

[Palem]

Guys, c'mon. PewPew would never arrange a farmwar to directly benefit AMA's competition...

*cough*They did this last age. Why is anyone defending them? Here's the link*cough*

[Ezzerland]

Which is what exactly, being liked by the community? In terms of crowns and war wins, definitely not as I have **** all over both of them. You sound a lot like korp, posting garbage without backing it up factually. I know you are the pseudo-intellectual wannabe type but I have a news flash, you do not appear that way to anyone. Go back to your ghetto :)

Unlike you, Parth and Petrified both had to build their kingdoms and work to get them into the top. This is something I don't think you are capable of. You, whom discredits the success of others pasts while incessantly discussing your own. Go ahead. Factually back up how many ages you spent succeeding with your own kingdom and not riding on the curtails of another's success.

[Soul_Hunter]

Well all I can say, is that there were no plans to deny your crown or anything for over 2/3rds of the set. Even though there was a frustration over you actions. But after a while we realized that no matter what we did, everything seemed set up.
So yeah ppl got tired and their focus was to deny you crown. What's intresting is that at least 3 other kds felt the same way. You can say whatever you want, but that's reality. It's a fatal misstake from Elit, he did everything to stay ahead of everyone no matter the cost of allies, nor relations between other kingdoms. It ended up backfiring in an way that he couldn't even imagine.



Our goal is clear, we will do what is possible within the game rules to achieve our goals.
Why do you think Proteus is so disliked by so many ? Try guessing.

I had no opinion about him until 2 sets ago, I only knew he was in a successful kd (rage). then I learned not to trust him with anything and that he twists everything both verbal and written agreements.
And I also realized he is big fake. He only shows up when things are good(winning) takes credit, and is gone missing when things go bad (loosing), tons of excuses that he doesn't have time etc.
I wonder how You tolerate that, he did the same thing in the war against PewPew, it was clear that someone else was in charge after 48 hrs.




You call this a FW, you call the war last set FW. To me it's obvious. Including yourself. And you have now quite many posts about our strategy and what we should do and what we should not.
Thing is, ED play this better than you do, and therefor we can't use exactly the same strategy as we did the war against you. You fail to see that. Your leadership has really blinded you.
We wanna war, and we wanna war similar kingdoms. (We don't like hitting much weaker kingdoms but we will do that if it is needed)




Nobody gets free farm. And you didn't get doubled.
When our kd was formed, it had a purpose, and one of the purposes was to remove the the biggest kingdoms "bullying" rights.
Just because you re big and nasty, you won't get your acres for free from us.

And if more kingdoms would fight back, this game would be more intresting.



No, you re really wrong there. We have no "reasons" to be against you. Actually we were minding our own buissnes and had not any intentions of warring you, screwing you over or anything like that. We know that you wanted the crown, and we know that we didn't. So go ahead, but you couldn't resist proving some kind of a point.
And you proved it, you won against us, still you re unhappy, so my question is: What's wrong with you ?

You have a leadership that invests a lot of time to make us look bad on forums (especially Proteus), and deliberatly spreading rumors and statements that go all the way from cheating to fakewarring. You expect us to just take it ?

- So you do agree that these kingdoms played the "guardians of ethics card"?
- You also state that "we will do what is possible within the game rules to achieve our goals. ". Game rules do not forbid what you are accused of. Nor i said they do.
- Since when accusing someone of fake war and making comments on their strategy equals dictating what you do? We are damn frustrated and we talk about it. But we haven't done anything to influence the war. You know it. I said it already and you simply miss that part.
- What has Proteus got to do with the hatred of couple of kds towards us? I simply stated that the haters were here before him. Yes he is annoying to you. But he is annoying when people poke him like Korp does all the time. It is like poking a mad dog and then crying "it bit me". Certain people know his temper and use it to justify their crap talk.
- As for the free farm. Yes, here you definitely showed us how much you know about the history of the conflicts. Pewpew did not just let SWEA farm them... not at all.
- To Korp and you, again Havoc did not double hostiled AMA 2 ages ago, not at all...

[Tedurur]

Well for sure when you won the crown u didn't get doubled, nor your competition didn't get free farm for 150k acres so please do not compare us to you.

Im sorry but wtf are you talking about? We (ED when we won nw/land) did indeed get doubled teamed. Did you even play back then?

[Soul_Hunter]

So you did get double teamed in a vital moment of the age when you were on top and lost the crown cause of it? Cause there is a double hostile and a double hostile. We got 3 wars in a row with Absalom kds +2 weeks hostile. Did you?

I didn't say your crown doesn't count. Contrary to many other ppl. I just say stop to ppl that throw 2 crowns for 30 ages as an argument against a kd with 3 ages in crown fight, that got **** played twice. Also not to mention that we got people with enough crowns behind them in the kd to just make that comparison irrelevant (i do not include myself).

[padrez]

Guys, c'mon. PewPew would never arrange a farmwar to directly benefit AMA's competition...

*cough*They did this last age. Why is anyone defending them? Here's the link*cough*

Your coughs are very enlightening. Or they should be for some of the forum activists. Good job Pam.