CR vs AMA

[faegan]

Pyro are confident with win over CR. Pyro are allies with RBL. After AMA bashes RBL, just about time Pyro and CR wars, Pyro can bash AMA again. Zauper is burning bridge between RBL and Pyro and whatnot. Zauper is mind ****ing Simians into gbing Pyro later(the goal is to remove bank acres of Pyro). The real question is how is RBL and Pyro relationship for now? Zauper and RBL are not even allies. Pretty sure Drixx is not that stupid to fall for argumentations of Zauper/Anri. Drixx will stand of for Pyro.

Drixx would rather have crown on Pyro rather than CR which is goal for their age(after fail Pewpew and RBL vulture).

What's in it for Simians? I think they just really want to uphold fair play and no one should gain from GB.(unfortunately, same goal with Zauper; removing acres from Pyro banks). At this point Simians thinks Pyro is as dirty as Elit.(Want RL parrallelism? A police catching a dirty crook and police getting has hands dirty over some dirty filthy criminal cash).

Uhm, GB alliance agreed upon Pyro taking acres yes? If so, why now QQ about it? I have told CJ that I do not like leaving RBL to fight AMA, but I have no doubt that this issue was discussed and clwared with Drixx. I do not know what Anri wants...AMA disband? 25 pk? To what end? The objective was to take them out of croqn race and that has been accomplished. All hits now IMHO are just to settle personal grudges and have nothing to do with fair play.

[faegan]

A CF for RBL / simians will prevent AMA from having the button on them as a result of the gb.

Good luck with that now.

[Dark Knight]

Personally I would have preferred AMA intra raze and fight pyro, then the winner fight CR.

Yes CR would have crowned, so be it.

AMA as far as I'm concerned changed this outcome and removed themselves from the race.

Pyro fighting CR on even grounds was part of the "fair play" alliance, so be it.

[KyGal]

This alone makes me question your actions.

I really hate RL examples, but here's mine:

The old guy in your street gets bashed for no reason, you know who did it and feel they should be touched up!

You find this person and knock him to the ground, then the bashing turns into, lets cut his throat and bury him.

Although one believed a bashing was in order, murder was not.

Our state prisons is full of people you did not say enough is enough because they feared for there own safety and continued to aid in the murder.

What ever comes from this, the next 10 times I have to set my alarm to get up ( which REALLY gets hard with age ), will be a pleasure as I'm proud of our leadership.

Just for my clarification, because I'm confused here, please Dark Knight. The way I understand this is: CR is the old man that got bashed. AMA is the person that did it. The ones who go after AMA are rightfully bashing AMA, but have gone beyond a justified punishment. (Which I said days ago). So now they're set on completely crushing AMA.

Did I read that right? Or am I way off?

I personally think it's sad that these kd's are so set on completely destroying AMA. I mean seriously, you ***** and whine every age because there isn't enough competition. You wanted to teach AMA a lesson, you failed... You took it too far. Now you've created a monster. I've seen far too many good/great/competitive kd's leave this game and I would hate to see more leave.

As for AMA, they're screwed. IF I were them, I'd fight you til the last day of the age. Because while that hurts their kd morale, it will destroy yours as well. People will get tired of a gb that lasts for weeks... And you deserve it. You try to destroy a top kd, then I can only hope karma puts a massive hurting on yours. You could have taught them a lesson without taking it to this extreme.

/me sighs

[tetley]

Lets not forget that Debauchery did dealbreak as well and previously cheated so bringing that up is pretty voided since Debauchery themselves are inclined to dealbreak when its suits them.

Lets not forget how SWEA won land crown greatly helped by hitting into Debauchery's war for thousands of acres, and justified it by calling them dealbreakers even though SWEA didn't actually care.


Anyways. Just when I thought Pyro couldn't get any classier, now they are pulling out of the gangbang, leaving AMA with two provinces in the top 5 and a juicy RBL faery to feast on.
Some alliance. Lol what a joke all this is

[Lupine]

So are we expecting the so called fair play alliance will take actions on Pyro for not 'fair playing' along with their standards?

[Crunch]

So were rbl and simians, who helped pyro and pyro is willing to abandon em to letting AMA force wars on em

fight your own battles ..

[Drug]

Just for my clarification, because I'm confused here, please Dark Knight. The way I understand this is: CR is the old man that got bashed. AMA is the person that did it. The ones who go after AMA are rightfully bashing AMA, but have gone beyond a justified punishment. (Which I said days ago). So now they're set on completely crushing AMA.

Did I read that right? Or am I way off?

I personally think it's sad that these kd's are so set on completely destroying AMA. I mean seriously, you ***** and whine every age because there isn't enough competition. You wanted to teach AMA a lesson, you failed... You took it too far. Now you've created a monster. I've seen far too many good/great/competitive kd's leave this game and I would hate to see more leave.

As for AMA, they're screwed. IF I were them, I'd fight you til the last day of the age. Because while that hurts their kd morale, it will destroy yours as well. People will get tired of a gb that lasts for weeks... And you deserve it. You try to destroy a top kd, then I can only hope karma puts a massive hurting on yours. You could have taught them a lesson without taking it to this extreme.

/me sighs

I want to marry this wise woman ;)

P.S.
Respect to zauper for making sence in such awful situation for his kd.

[Dark Knight]

Just for my clarification, because I'm confused here, please Dark Knight. The way I understand this is: CR is the old man that got bashed. AMA is the person that did it. The ones who go after AMA are rightfully bashing AMA, but have gone beyond a justified punishment. (Which I said days ago). So now they're set on completely crushing AMA.

Did I read that right? Or am I way off?

CR old man yes
AMA person who did it

My point being ( and a lesson learnt ) borders should be made clear prior to "justice" is served.

On these grounds, I feel Pyro ( if they feel ) the line has been crossed, have the right to bow out.

Lets get this straight, I don't have any pull on what Pyro does.

As far as I'm concerned, pyro: a) help remove AMA from the crown (punishment). b) Only scored enough acres to fight CR on even ground.

EDIT: I have been advise b) is wrong and should retract.

[jjofdenmark]

So were rbl and simians, who helped pyro and pyro is willing to abandon em to letting AMA force wars on em

You had an offer from Elit giving all involved a CF!!! If you have taken this noone would have been left as a runaway target for AMA!!!

I find it sad that rbl is getting it this way after what they did to set AMA straight. We have good relations with rbl and find it sad that they ended up in this situation. But how the frack can you blame us for this runaway war, when you turned down an all cf? How dare you put the bame us when you turned down the CF deal only to hurt AMA more!?! Your petty revenge put rbl in the situation they are in now. Not us!!! They fought to help the game and sadly the game turned on them :( We pulled out when justice had been served and it started to turn ugly.

Dear god this has become a sad display of lust for power, bad intentions and backstabbing!

[Proteus]

I don't think that saying 'hey, there are other people who helped us achieve our aim, let's make sure they don't get hurt for it (because in doing so they had to give up the button)' is advocating for murder.

I remember when Havoc was still in Abs (a huge disgrace to Abs but luckily it was at the waning of their era and for only a short time) when stripper dealbroke rage and rage asked havoc for help, havoc gave them the finger and said "we're trying to crown here go ask someone else." I also remember that age when Rage attempted to coordinate with Havoc to engage threats early on in age rather than cf and actually took the first step and waved AMA and Havoc pledged to wave BB but ended up cfing them so they could "wave ama and take them out while rage is done." Instead of that havoc cfed AMA as well. You guys were always a great ally, probably the reason i quit rage after retiring from leaderingship and passing on kd rather than taking option of staying in kd and helping new leaders....would rather spend a day in jail than to be allied to that.

So were rbl and simians, who helped pyro and pyro is willing to abandon em to letting AMA force wars on em

Ever stop to think pyro joined because they didnt want ama keeping havoc's acres and influencing charts with and just to neutralize that issue and once ama was no longer a crown threat but gb did not stop and goal became to rip apart the kd rather than just eoa cf as all other gbs/awars have ended they saw change in goals, saw the unfairness, hypocrisy and how arbitrary it all was and wanted nothing else to do with it?

It isn't done until the folks who helped achieve that aim have a CF.

why would you let someone who helped you get there get ****ed for helping you?

Maybe thats because what is considered reasonable cf terms for pyro (ama doesnt play for #1 and cfs) does not reconcile with reasonable cf terms of fake rage/simians (ama razes itself into oblivion even though the kd is much smaller than pre-hits on havoc).

A CF for RBL / simians will prevent AMA from having the button on them as a result of the gb.

Are people that insecure to still be afraid of a kd they gbed 12v1, RKed 5 provinces, and dropped 30k+ acres from original size before havoc was hit?

I do not know what Anri wants...AMA disband? 25 pk? To what end? The objective was to take them out of croqn race and that has been accomplished. All hits now IMHO are just to settle personal grudges and have nothing to do with fair play.

I disagreed with majority of your posts in here but you hit the nail on the head with this one. Anri also tried to organize gb on ama early age when we waved him after he 2v1ed pyro and was expecting to have hostile protection even though he was double teaming.

You had an offer from Elit giving all involved a CF!!! If you have taken this noone would have been left as a runaway target for AMA!!!

I find it sad that rbl is getting it this way after what they did to set AMA straight. We have good relations with rbl and find it sad that they ended up in this situation. But how the frack can you blame us for this runaway war, when you turned down an all cf? How dare you put the bame us when you turned down the CF deal only to hurt AMA more!?! Your petty revenge put rbl in the situation they are in now. Not us!!! They fought to help the game and sadly the game turned on them :( We pulled out when justice had been served and it started to turn ugly.

Dear god this has become a sad display of lust for power, bad intentions and backstabbing!

We offered eoa nap to all and to not play for #1 while we were in eowcf, simians and rbl wanted us to raze down ourselves even though we were smaller than our size prior to hitting havoc. Deal was completely biased and intent on hurting ama to maximum rather than promoting fair play which was claim gb was based on.

[TommyB]

I find it sad that rbl is getting it this way after what they did to set AMA straight. We have good relations with rbl and find it sad that they ended up in this situation.

What is the sad situation for RBL?

[Minty]

Self-righteous hypocrit-alliance needs to raze RBL's banks because they are gaining acres and none should be gaining from a gangbang.

[faegan]

I disagreed with majority of your posts in here but you hit the nail on the head with this one. Anri also tried to organize gb on ama early age when we waved him after he 2v1ed pyro and was expecting to have hostile protection even though he was double teaming.

My posts are my opinion, which hasn't changed. AMA required punishment for dealbreaking, and you disagreed with the severity or even the whole of the punishment. You disagreed until my posts were more favourable to AMA.

I feel punishment was served and a good deal was offered by AMA to resolve matters. The GB had no further legitimacy from then on. That's how I see it.

As for RBL warring AMA now: wouldn't have happened this way when AMA EOACF deal was accepted.

Finally: there's a reason why noone wanted to help Anri early age; we're quite able to see through the smokescreens and see things as they really are.

[Zauper]

You had an offer from Elit giving all involved a CF!!! If you have taken this noone would have been left as a runaway target for AMA!!!

I find it sad that rbl is getting it this way after what they did to set AMA straight. We have good relations with rbl and find it sad that they ended up in this situation. But how the frack can you blame us for this runaway war, when you turned down an all cf? How dare you put the bame us when you turned down the CF deal only to hurt AMA more!?! Your petty revenge put rbl in the situation they are in now. Not us!!! They fought to help the game and sadly the game turned on them :( We pulled out when justice had been served and it started to turn ugly.

Dear god this has become a sad display of lust for power, bad intentions and backstabbing!

All I heard was elit offered to cf all but simians / rbl. That seems different somehow.

Propro: not going to respond to that wall of text, especially since I responded to most of it earlier. You can go reread my response to your strippers qq. I also remember Drixx getting **** for letting them **** over hoh.

Edit: faegan, your leadership offered to raze the acres since they are leaving the gb. Seems reasonable that they will be razed then.