would you have accepted it if all alliance kds wanted to gain acres as a fee for helping you win the war?
would you have accepted it if all alliance kds wanted to gain acres as a fee for helping you win the war?
None is in it to gain.
I don't believe that to be true AMurican Bad butt, It's plain and simple to see if Pyro or any other kd doesn't do what your alliance wants they get GB'd in the name of fair play. The charts have been pre planned, just list it right here for clarity:
Fair Play Chart Placement (agreed by fair play)
#1 CR
#2 Pyro (if u don't raze them cow acres u switch to #5 ok because u did help more then pew but you're a traitor!)
#3 RBL
#4 Simians (sorry pew pew but u didn't help the gb have chart finish u one lower)
#5 BB (just to smooth things over , look we just don't like your scum bag friends)
#6 Pew Pew (back behind GB kd's in chart placement ty, we woulda put u 3-4 if u woulda helped)
#7 Rusty ( you helped us so next age your tax rate is only 5% (1/2) of our 10% min.)
so gaining a war win is not considered gaining? or is it neutralized by the fact that you regained the acres that were taken from you?
I am just going to put this out there, I like unreasonable Elit. He seems more fun.
"The Utopian voice of reason" ~Ben (And he's an official moderator)
AB why should fake rage get cow acres back when they got war declared on, their cows were ready and drafted. You made choice to break eoa nap with ama and you made choice to reject elit's cf offer to eoa cf all kds and not playoff #1 when we were in eow, you QQed about cow acres and refuse deal so we forced to declare fake tag rage and farm their cows. This was your own mistake to not accept reasonable diplo after : 1) ama no longer crown threat, 2) ama agree to remove themselves from age with eoa cf, 3) dealbreak punished 4) havic get acres back...this was original goal of your GB and reason pyro leave was because you push past original goals.
If rage want cow acres back that ama took from them 1vs5+ then ama should get all land back to be 160k land before ama hit havoc. It's funny rage complains about losing cow land when fighting war 5v1 vs. single kd.
P.s. Fake rage cow strategy was horrible, didn't you learn anything about proper cowing from when I played there?
We proposed an MP and our acres to our cow back (so like none of this happened) so no one gains the WW.Originally Posted by IrGr8Nublet
Elit counter - no cow acres back but we give him the WW.
no chance.... you actually need to be able to win a war... how does pyro respect you guys?
Yes! Easy to Talk Big and Confidently when you guys are ganging up a KD. =P
If AMA is withdrawing from the Land/NW crown (like they keep claiming), why do they need the Bank acres? We only request the acres to be equal. Not more. When they're equal we can MP.
Now your elves are going to go down. Guess their is a time bomb clicking for both =D
I guess they don't since they left. Who are you? Cello asked the same question.
5 in one don't like gangbangs... =(
I am going to bed now AMA, please leave me all your questions. You can also PM them to me for a bigger reply and to ensure i actually answer them for you. I get a bit shy talking in public for too long!
I haven't read this entire thread and have been gone for a great deal of time, so I'll give the game from my perspective.
I think over the past few ages, AMA has gotten unfairly blamed for a lot of the drama they found themselves in. At the same time, I think AMA could have avoided some of it with better communication/diplomacy.
I'll give an example: AMA and simians dislikes eachother. Anri thinks AMA bailed on him vs SWEA when Elit promised to step in and help them when they were allies.
AMA did promise this, and Simians got hurt, so Anri has very real reasons to be upset. However, at the same time Elit had very real reasons to think he could have helped Anri, but in fact he could not (Pew Pew was organizing a gangbang on AMA at the time, so if AMA had hit/warred SWEA, then pew and perhaps others would have hit into that war). So AMA could not engage SWEA as Elit had promised for some very real reasons.
I personally think if I was in AMA's situation, I could have talked to Anri and explained it in a way that resulted in Anri not disliking me or distrusting me, but Elit did not do so and they still are arguing or don't trust eachother to this day. I can see both sides.
I will say this: It seems as if one of the main problems in reaching a deal is that Elit wants to keep something, whether its banks or honor or whatnot to keep his pride. The Fair Play group is worried about a subsequent deal break.
If a deal is made, and Elit agrees to it publicly, to help ensure that whatever accord is kept, if this helps facilitate the deal I will agree to join against AMA if dealbreak whatever resolution is made to keep the peace.
Another example: 2-3 ages ago BB blocked havoc from B2B warring AMA due to the double hostile the then Havoc made on AMA which cost them a crown. We blocked it diplomatically and made it somewhat fair so that BB and havoc could fight some time later. But at the time, I had a conversation with Elit where at that point the grudge between Havoc and AMA would be settled and not carried further. Therefore, I don't think that grudge should be an excuse or something to point at to justify AMA dealbreaking Havoc this age.
I respect your offer to help keep the peace, and it is very much appreciated.
I legitimately think that without your involvement a deal will not be made, but in order for a deal to be made both sides must be willing to compromise.
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