CR vs AMA

[Chrystal Palace]

why give a notice at all? not being a asshat for once. i seriously want to know. cf ends why not just attack?

[padrez]

no no no son. you have to prenotice the notice of hostilities. thats how it works. :)

[faegan]

Hopefully after this age there will be no more "dibs" to me it is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in all my ages playing. Giving notice does not entitle you to a fight if the kd your noticing has no relations or can end relations with other kingdoms in range, people need to learn that and stop being butthurt about it.

+1

Notice = "Hi, we're (XX:XX) and in line to our CF agreement we are sending this heads-up to remind you that starting from <insert utopia date here> we are no longer restricted to attack you."

No more, no less.. right?

[topsy's revenge]

As I understand it the point of notices initially were to allow kd's the ability to sit oow and not force them to war when cf ran out(since if notice was given you could switch then). However, with the stock requirements being pretty much limitless notices are really now just a way of making sure you don't get vultured(or AS vultured) directly oow.

[Band of Horses]

why give a notice at all? not being a asshat for once. i seriously want to know. cf ends why not just attack?

It is part of the contract that Flogger draws up. (In case you didn't know he physically writes all CF deals for all kingdoms, has them notarized, and FedEx them to each monarch)

[wickedfail]

Next age is going to be really fun when no one is past 50k acres from all the GB'ing.

Then smaller kingdoms will be getting involved. They get to extract their revenge from the past 30 ages. Imagine getting waved by 20 kingdoms all within decent size. LAWL

[Proteus]

As I understand it the point of notices initially were to allow kd's the ability to sit oow and not force them to war when cf ran out(since if notice was given you could switch then). However, with the stock requirements being pretty much limitless notices are really now just a way of making sure you don't get vultured(or AS vultured) directly oow.

Notices let you pump on lower draft, explore freely, and play more "relaxed" as they allow you to know in advance who is coming for you and when and gives you time to prepare. In short they make everything more predictable. On the other hand early age there are no notices so you constantly have to be alert monitoring other kingdoms/in range provs for killers and cows so its a more intensive and unpredictable game style. Without notices everyone would be constantly drafted up and rotating in and out of fort. Personally I like notices because they let you switch gears between relaxed and uptight modes of play.

And yes you are right when duration cf expires they give you added cushion when you come out of a conflict so you are not immediately engaged and have more time to recover.

Notices benefit some more than others obviously, people who require sci pump etc. to execute their strategy will want them more as opposed to kds like sleepy who force wars and do fsu throughout age.

There is nothing wrong with notice in general, it's the morons who think that notice issued = entitle you to hit the kd you sent to regardless of the options for fights your target has available.

[topsy's revenge]

Notices don't really do that anymore though proteus because pump requirements are so high by late age. If I am pumping to 33 military/acre and that will take 8 days of stocking and 4 days of drafting/swapping/training then whether the notice is 24 hours or 48 hours it doesn't really matter. The advantage of 33-34 military/acre over someone who would go from sci pump to war build(even if they do have a little stock of say 2kgcpa) within a 48 hour notice is astronomical.

Ultiamtely right now you pretty much need to be ready by time cf is up no matter what since you'd have to do all of these things before notice period anywase. That's why i was saying only practical effect of it seems to be to limit eowcf vulturing(which i do think is important though).

[gergnub]

i jumped over 136 pages and this thread seems nub.

[Band of Horses]

i jumped over 136 pages and this thread seems nub.

I envy you.

[MrCurious]

I envy you.

Atleast you are honest. I respect you for it.

[Band of Horses]

Atleast you are honest. I respect you for it.

I am far from honest. Aside from the previous statement and the following. I deserve no respect.

[Elit]

I am far from honest. Aside from the previous statement and the following. I deserve no respect.

I respect you for admit it :P

[American Badass]

1. i dont support deal break too its bad. Its have hurt many times us.
2. Havoc share same guilty with AMA for all this situation and Drixx share double more guilty for not really try to solve it with Diplomatic before GB start. For his short time lead kd 4 ages he is involved in 2 GBs. Really bad statistic for new leader.

I think 2) is harsh to say about Drixx considering he approached you before the whole conflict to try and not make the GB happen. If your demands during negotiations were anything to go by during the Pre-GB I can see why the GB didn't get stopped.

Anri the only reason it took so long to make a deal was the previous deals offered by your side were unacceptably biased. The deal we made in the end was very similar to the deal we offered while in eowcf, the reason you chose not to accept is the reason this continued further.

Just like any negotiations you make one and the other party counter offers it. When one side refuses to come to the negotiation table talks die down fast.

It is good it is over though and hopefully we can move on from it and improve the play in the top next age. I really would like to see the top land/nw kingdoms come together to set up appropriate definitions etc with suitable punishments should any be broken whereby all agree to help to police it. This might bring an end to alliances if people are aware the top will action **** play and won't feel the need to have "back up" to not be bullied etc.

[Dark Knight]

Notices let you pump on lower draft, explore freely, and play more "relaxed" as they allow you to know in advance who is coming for you and when and gives you time to prepare. In short they make everything more predictable. On the other hand early age there are no notices so you constantly have to be alert monitoring other kingdoms/in range provs for killers and cows so its a more intensive and unpredictable game style. Without notices everyone would be constantly drafted up and rotating in and out of fort. Personally I like notices because they let you switch gears between relaxed and uptight modes of play.

And yes you are right when duration cf expires they give you added cushion when you come out of a conflict so you are not immediately engaged and have more time to recover.

Notices benefit some more than others obviously, people who require sci pump etc. to execute their strategy will want them more as opposed to kds like sleepy who force wars and do fsu throughout age.

There is nothing wrong with notice in general, it's the morons who think that notice issued = entitle you to hit the kd you sent to regardless of the options for fights your target has available.

+1

Not so much for what you are saying ( but you bring up valid points), yet how your manor has improved in conversation in these forums.

Please continue to talk in a respectful manor, and you will find people will judge you on what you are saying, instead of how you are saying it.