Anything interesting happening?

[Nick_mi]

so use the report button. You seem ok at that. But you're wrong about what bishop reset them for. You see, sending out aid on a freshly created province and then resetting is what the problem was. They reset this time without aiding out.

You want to talk interesting? How about the post by bishop that says "hey guys, we found a bug, please go abuse it asap while we try and fix it" ?

Gg.

url?

[Ezzerland]

url?

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...2#post15286742

[Nick_mi]

Lol, this game is turning into a joke more and more it seems.

[faegan]

Faegan, if you dont want to believe our reasons, then why ask about them? We expected (XX:XX) to be ama, bb or pyro. So we waited 6 hours and waved. Setup suggested whoring since its a weird setup for early age warring unless you try to trick some ghetto. Against a decent KD your setup is terrible early age.
You guys didnt do your homework and secure cf's with nearby threats while running a full whoring build. You got chaught. Only reason you managed to do okay was because bishop helped you guys. Else it would have been a min time war

If you come with a coherent story that doesn't have huge holes in it, I'll gladly accept it. You, Godly and some others conveniently avoid answering how you knew there was a 20 hu/wh 5 fa/my on island XX.
You personally told me that you used your Utopia network of old contacts to get a view of the world, asking them if there are kingdoms like X on their island. In a PM with cJ you claimed that you do not use spies. So which is it? You're either lying to me or to cJ, which decreases your credibility. I suspect that you told me the truth and you contacted people to ask if they knew of any 25-province kingdoms near them and if they would share that information...don't know why you lied to cJ though, but perhaps you were angry with him and were in full denial mode.

And yes, we got caught pants-down, simple as that.

the def/tpa was largely guess work. We have hum/wh too so before we knew you were close we had already simmed their "whore" sim. Normally if a kd goes 25 provs that scale super late into the game they will be whoring oop so we just made sims based on the hum/wh whore build. Hum/wh that wants to whore comes out with about 22k off and 4k def on 1 tpa(you guys opted for a little more def on some provs to get to 5k and took from tpa) so we trained to about 8k def, 16k off, and 2 tpa. Right off the bat with this spread you are trading 2 taps for 4 taps and with the tpa differential you can manipulate the taps or econ as you see fit.

Going a whore setup doesn't mean you will excel at whoring. If you really want to whore all age and not just put your age up to luck of the island draw you need to go something that is strong warring early.

edit: I should point out those numbers are before the aiding.

Thanks for this very good run-down topsy, and it's quite accurate as well. Most of my questions are covered, it just makes me curious about one last thing: you suggest that you had time to adjust to our build/setup (I underlined it in the quoted text). Seeing you have an UD/Tactician core this would require at least 16h of training time to do adjustment..but..you didn't know what to prepare for 10h before OOP. You just picked a warring strategy for be prepared for anything that you came across, was that it?

EDIT: Now I see it. I misread your explanation and I understand it fully now. I will no longer bug you with questions. Many thanks Topsy!

[protector]

So use the report button. You seem ok at that. But you're wrong about what Bishop reset them for. You see, sending out aid on a freshly created province and THEN resetting is what the problem was. They reset this time without aiding out.

You want to talk interesting? How about the post by Bishop that says "Hey guys, we found a bug, please go abuse it ASAP while we try and fix it" ?

gg.

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...2#post15286742

Quite frankly I don't get what this has to do with all of this? :P

[Ezzerland]

I don't know where you joined the conversation at, but as if the active conversation mattered, the thread title & point makes the word 'interesting' the only relevant conversation.

Edit - I also just heard a rumour that BB used the explore bug this age. If this is true, all the more interesting! Can you confirm?

[flogger]

I don't know where you joined the conversation at, but as if the active conversation mattered, the thread title & point makes the word 'interesting' the only relevant conversation.

Edit - I also just heard a rumour that BB used the explore bug this age. If this is true, all the more interesting! Can you confirm?

Not a bug if you're below the median.

[Ezzerland]

Awesome. If you got the strength to hold top spot(s) (I can't see charts atm), then you should abuse it while Bishop still says it's ok and keep that prov going tickly! :)

[Dark Knight]

Anyone have anything interesting happen?

This topic is boring!

Edit: Pyro took it to war cause we knew we could mitigate the loses from your wave, which we took back 1800 acres, other option would have been you wanted another wave for CF.

Sorry about that, i have since found out we did take gold, but it was less than half you mentioned.

[noobium]

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

[Dark Knight]

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

Spacing would have been better...

dumb .... da dumb.. dumb dumb!

[Band of Horses]

I don't like how my friend DK has been portrayed in this thread.

Did Pyro and CR work out a CF agreement for after war or is round 2 in the works?

[noobium]

Spacing would have been better...

dumb .... da dumb.. dumb dumb!

Imagine it to this beat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ViF6JRNjTk

[StratOcastle]

Spacing would have been better...

dumb .... da dumb.. dumb dumb!

Dragnet style,...right on!

Interestingg? I'm in vac mode so I don't have deep game emotions, but I did just finish a pint of Graeter's Strawberry Ice-Cream. We could've shown them all; me and my strawberry ice-cream....but it's all over now * sigh *

[flogger]

Awesome. If you got the strength to hold top spot(s) (I can't see charts atm), then you should abuse it while Bishop still says it's ok and keep that prov going tickly! :)

The "bug" isn't a terribly factor mid-late age, as it just costs a little more to do what you would otherwise do.

Its mainly a bug the first week of the age when you expect to deal with 2k acre provinces and instead deal with 3k acre provinces, or more importantly its an issue when other people plan on CF'ing and exploring right away not being the ideal strategy, and instead looking for wars. AMA and BB last age didn't communicate at all until both of us were in wars, since we both thought that an early war, and the sci and the +5k bonus would be more significant than randoming since cowing was "slowed" and we're considered 2 of the top 3 whoring minds, that seems reasonable.

As it turned out, cowing wasn't slowed at all and havoc got to walk away with an age win because they CF'd everyone but the 2 threats who relied on the devs announced changes to be implemented.

Not to mention the fact that somehow when we did fight havoc early, we couldn't succeed spells despite 5-7x their mod WPA and being mystic with all our WPA science allocated to magic, since that was a pretty integral part of our setup choice, to have that 200 to 10 wizard advantage.