BB vs PewPew

[crease]

Sheister, you need to join in good KD and start learn game or maybe Flogger have spot in his ghetto.
Cows alone dont win wars. We proved it last age.
good activity+good kingdom cooperation+good setup are much more important.



WSk is decent WW ghetto. ZZ are ghetto with cow. You still manage to win your war vs ZZ. So how you see its possible :)

WSK beating ZZ was entirely ZZ's fault honestly. They let off the gas in terms of getting the WW and forgot to mass the faes in favour of taking more acres expecting us to WD being 15k acres down. Cows are far stronger this age than any age since the change in max explore size.



edit: also it was undeads+orcs vs humans in week 3, thats not gonna go great longterm anyway.

[StratOcastle]

Edit: age60 references.

Palem might be trolling y'all a bit, but both he and Elit have said so and we know AMA did so...So, I thought it awfully funny after witnessing the defeat of RK and Pew2 that RBL hadn't studied the game film to see what was going on.
Perhaps it's simply that they misunderstood what they saw. Certainly CR wasn't confident with any advantage a kingdom might've had over AMA, and thus notice-notice.

There are basics in the traces visible to a ghetto bum like me: AMA was attempting to erect cows that were the subject of Remotes vengeance. So I call BS here, but with the understanding they were now engaging CR; not really Pyro. I think Pyro was considered a means to an end. AMA fully expected to defeat Pyro and do some cow witchcraft. No offense to Pyro, as cJ remarks on war kingdom naivety in another thread.

Once CR was aware the Remote debacle had secured their cow position, they then offered an extension. AMA knew this was curtains for certains and frustration waved CR in a beautiful display of ghetto done right. From the kingdom pages I could see the wreckage, but would've enjoyed a sit in for clarity on the strategic function.
I'm not shy about marveling at AMA last age. I find it astonishing how few in this game will humble themselves not even to listen, but at least study what AMA is doing.~ You don't copy, you create off of influence ~ advice from a sub 1k noob.

[Palem]

I'm not trolling one bit.

Learn how to cow, or learn to beat it.
Both are possible and will result in happiness for you.

*****ing about how unfair it is all over the forums will only result in sadness.

[Chrystal Palace]

back on topic please. (wants to be mini palem)

[Palem]

BB and PewPew aren't doing anything :(

[StratOcastle]

back on topic please. (wants to be mini palem)

We can openly discuss how to beat BB, but these veiled arguments were supposed to do the trick. - Oh.

[Band of Horses]

Please everyone you are getting off topic in here. This is not a thread about prov per kd.

back on topic please. (wants to be mini palem)

I tried 5 pages ago. I wanted to protect my thread but these people just don't care. :(

[Proteus]

Yeh right, that's why every T10 kd has cows, and that's why they spend entire ages defending them and doing everything they can to keep them as big as possible. Because they are not needed.

That's also why kingdoms sacrifice their core to get big cows, just because they aren't needed.

It makes me sad that people really not wanting to make anything diffrent and better, but just run in old circles every day, feeling safe that nothing changes.
Pathetic

Cows dont win war, core and overall strategy does, it's already been proven.

[PhoenixScorpion]

Cows dont win war, core and overall strategy does, it's already been proven.

I think the RBL vs AMA war proved that cows alone will not win a war and that strategy is much more important. I would argue activity+strategy, with stratgey being first with activity being a close second. Then cows would factor in with first two being equal.

[DM_Benjamin]

Strato,

You, Palem and the rest of the AMA fan boys can continue to talk **** about a situation you know nothing about. AMA broke CF terms for one reason and one reason only... Because they had absolutely no chance to beat us in war. In fact less than zero, way below it. The difference between our two kingdoms are: we have won an age, AMA haven't. Secondly, we aren't deal breakers... AMA are.

It's that simple

[Elit]

Strato,

You, Palem and the rest of the AMA fan boys

If you want fans you need to work harder!

[Korp]

Strato,

You, Palem and the rest of the AMA fan boys can continue to talk **** about a situation you know nothing about. AMA broke CF terms for one reason and one reason only... Because they had absolutely no chance to beat us in war. In fact less than zero, way below it. The difference between our two kingdoms are: we have won an age, AMA haven't. Secondly, we aren't deal breakers... AMA are.

It's that simple

Anyone can win if you gangbang the top contender :)

[flogger]

cows are a problem and have always been a problem since they started getting used. As much as the devs like to consider it a team game, the only way to get rid of cows is by eliminating or reducing aid, then you can eliminate all these silly exponential pool caps.

Make the game so some math nerd can play in a ghetto and be the #1 province on his own, as that's how most of the people who first joined the game played.

[Sheister]

People who keep trying to impute the statement to me that cows win wars:

I NEVER FREAKING SAID COWS WIN WARS IN AND OF THEMSELVES. But they make one heck of a difference don't they? So stop making ridiculous arguments.

[StratOcastle]

@ Ben. No offense intended and my implications were portrayed as evidence only. My point was simply that AMA could handle cows up to a point. In the deal break situation i draw the conclusion that AMA evidently felt the need to draft cows to engage CR. Remote apparently crippled the ambitions of AMA to compete at the level CR was operating.

While the deal break amounts to a diplo fail it was an impressive display of wave sculpture by AMA. Observing the kingdom pages before and after the fact I wouldn't have expected the leveling of CRs elf compliment. All I can draw from AMA strategy is that they understand nw platforms that are apparent from kingdom page reviews. Opponent core rendered to fuel in a manner us in the lower tier are hard pressed to mimic.