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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    Hi, my name is FromDownBelow and I have no idea what Socialism is.
    Really, dick? Should i have said corporate socialism instead? Which is what I meant by socialism towards corporations...

    blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/06/01/how-corporate-socialism-destroys/

    "That’s how corporate socialism works — privatize gains, socialize losses and destroy competitors who do not get subsidies."

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    Where did it go wrong?

    I mean, no social security, no health coverage, 40 million poor, plenty more trailer trash, a middle class withering away, religious fanatics taking over, mad cowboy presidents and ignorance flourishing.


    What do you think went wrong?
    The US does have problems. So does everyone else. However, your post is full of ridiculous stereotypes that you got from your media, which is motivated by ideology and the natural hatred of the guy that is perceived as the big boy on the block. I suggest you expand your mind and stop being motivated by resentment.

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    I think they hav e social security, we have obama care now, poor is because they won't raise the minium wage to $15 an hour thank you republicans, religious fanatacis are a response to the anthiest and secular fanatacis who want gay marriage and to murder babies and no fault divorce, cowboy president wasn't too bad but I'd not for a republican president again because they ruin the economy but I prefer their policies to the dems socially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by himmlersberg View Post
    I think they hav e social security, we have obama care now, poor is because they won't raise the minium wage to $15 an hour thank you republicans, religious fanatacis are a response to the anthiest and secular fanatacis who want gay marriage and to murder babies and no fault divorce, cowboy president wasn't too bad but I'd not for a republican president again because they ruin the economy but I prefer their policies to the dems socially.
    hmm yes there is Social Security which steals from the working and gives to those who are old enough to collect it instead of investing the money put into it.. If Obama care will be run like the VA like they said they want to we are all going to die just like the vets. People are POOR because the war on poverty keeps people dependent on government doesnt help them get out of poverty.. Go ahead and raise the min wage.. lol guess you didnt take econ 101.. if you have 100 dollars to pay an employee at 10$ an hour.. he can work 10 hours... raise the min wage to 15$ an hour the business owner still only has 100$ to pay that employee.. Just look at what happened in Seattle.. They raised the min wage guess what happened.. people lost healthcare.. lost their free parking.. lost their 401k.. lost their free food... lost overtime.. THEY STILL NET THE SAME AMOUNT LOL.... Didnt change a dam thing... Problem 1 in the us.. When people in democracy figure out they can vote themselves benefits the country starts to decline. Problem 2 in the us.. The family unit is a wreck.. sorry single mothers have a super hard time raising families on their own. thus poverty is a result, crime is a result when you lose male role-models, we have no family structure anymore and when you lose that people are even more dependent on the government. Which is why people like yourself like those DEMs Keep people dependent on the government and they will vote the correct way to keep getting those handouts.. When the parasites outnumber the producers its Game over.. Just call us Greece...
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    The above post says it all. America is messed up. The problem is American culture, which is messed up.

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    Why is the world so messed up? It isn't just america. It is and forever will be the entire world. Unless you are some undiscovered tribe with taboo beliefs.

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    Holland isn't messed up! We rock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukharistan View Post
    Holland isn't messed up! We rock!
    good one :-P
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    good one :-P
    Good one aswell!

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    holland sucks

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    That's why everyone comes to visit this little paradise. We're rich, we can do whatever we want, we're happy. Weather is getting better aswell due to global warming, and even if it isn't, we have enough money and leisure time to go on vacation alllll year round :D

    We're good at footy aswell which makes our little country very proud. Best infrastructure in the world, the most innovative region in the world aswell. Best DJs and danceparty's... the list can go on. God we're so lucky and happy in Holland at times I have to force myself to cry to remember that emotion.

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    Its the me-first attitude that permeates society these days. No one thinks about "how can I benefit my community" or "wow, that person over there needs help" ...or even, simply, "man, I'm in a rough spot, I need to work hard to get out of it". Everyone sits back and expects things handed to them. We've been conditioned to be this way through the government and the media.

    Sorry, didn't mean to generalize...not everyone falls into the above categories.

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    I am not an American, I am an Asian, but I do admire US in several aspects. The people living in this country are very opened than the others, this is the one thing I like it a lot. Less barbarians, more words on the round table. Many things can be put into talk and discussions, in many countries out in the world, we are unable to do that. Subjects have been limited, threatened and tabooed, you bring it up, it simply means you are trying to challenge them in an offending way.

    It is ironic to say, when being Americans yourself some of you do not support Obama, but many of the people out here does not feel Obama "rejective". I believe that is the case. It is not like we actually do "like" him since he isn't really related to us anyway, but from the fact that many of the poorer and middle class in American actually votes for Obama while the rich ones reject him, all over the world we all can see that in the election, it somehow tells us that this is the guy that has a will to make a difference for his country.

    For someone who do not have the support from the richer class but the middle class of his countrymen, it is already assumed and predicted, things won't go so well on him. Already understood many will try to trash him, make him reputation down. I don't know much about your country but for a man who rather choose to stand on the poorer's side, at least give this guy a clap and don't treat him so badly, for picking a richer side to stand at is rather easy, and picking a poorer side to stand at, is stupid. And it is his stupidity for not siding on the rich ones that wins the heart of the many people out there.

    All over the world in this very century, we are all trying to make our own country, a better place. We are responsible of making our own country a better place. Many wants to make their country better, but good guys just do not like to involve into politics. We already realize now the votes on our hands aren't a magical charm that will work on building a country we want, it is just not enough. We need more good people in the politics.

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    As someone who loves my country and the ideals it was founded on it really sickens me to see what the USA has become. Our government is OWNED by corporations and the 1% (really the .01 percent) and our so called media is more then happy to defend and protect this madness. They have bought most of our politicians and its clear as day that our representatives no longer represent us, only who pays them the most. Meanwhile most people are still oblivious to the magnitude of this, some are waking up but not enough to stop it. In 2 days the people of this country is most likely going to put the republicans back in charge of our congress (by people I mean the 45% of this country that will actually vote in the election). Im not saying the democrats are all that great either, many of them are part of the problem too but to think that this voting public can be so persuaded from big money propaganda that they put the party of big money itself back in power is frightening.

    There is some hope out there. First and foremost we must fight for a constitutional amendment to end money in politics and say that corporations are not people and money is not speech. I think thats common sense but the supreme court seems to disagree so we need an amendment to make it clear to them. Also we need to get more people to vote. seems quite simple as well but takes a lot of work. If more people vote and are engaged in the political process we'll probably elect better politicians and maybe we'd have a functioning government again.

    This is not a partisan issue at all. Big money corporations dont care if ur liberal or conservative or whatever. They only care about 1 thing, the bottom line. And if you are in their way its a bad day for you regardless of who u vote for. So all people in USA out there look this up online and sign a petition, sign all of them, make ur voice heard!

    And for all non Americans out there all I can say is I hope u still believe in us, because right now I dont.

    Ok rant over. Back to my football, bacon cheeseburgers and internet porn haha!
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