Undead promotons from all hits

[Verminator]

Undead survived for years and years with conversion-only elites. They're just being returned to being the race for very active players who like to attack all the time.

Worried about not being able to go into war with full elites or massively pumped offense? You're not meant to anymore. Go in with mostly offspecs and convert your way to amazing offensive growth, you will be the attacker whose offense actually grows well without any effort during war. If you want big offense right when you go into war, play an Orc.

Worried about getting landfat while you try to convert elites OOW? Hit into Fortified kingdoms, you gain half the land but still get full conversion rates.

Worried about not being retal'd when you attack for land to convert OOW? Run semi-suicide OOW and make it easier for the enemy, then just pump defspecs to reasonable numbers once war is looming. Specs are very easy to train up in a pinch.

Worried about being retal'd with Learns later in the age when you attack for land to convert OOW? Run some Schools OOW while you're trad marching for conversions. Holy crap, a building that protects science! Where did that come from?!

Worried about having to get intra-razed to stay small instead of growing fat with land while trying to convert? Make friends outside your kingdom. Be social with other players, ask for a raze if you need one. Heck, be social with other undead! Trade land grabs for razes, back and forth. Your kingdom isn't responsible for your personal inability to play the race you chose effectively.

Can't handle the new (old) undead playstyle? Play another race.

Still want to play undead? Adapt properly and continue to thrive.

[Bishop]

Fort to Fort, or eowcf to eowcf hits to pump elites is back again I see. :o

That was nerfed afaik, you'll gain less elites.

[mandrake]

ok this thread taken a life of its own lol.

first off guys plunder mechanics asside the statment was hitting friends. well let me clear somthing up if you hit some one you loose troops so the idea that u could hit a friend and just gain promotions (not to mention not lose elites) is as likely as sending a failed attack and gaining promotions...


so all attacks invole some risk or some dmg to both parties even if it was orgnized u can just orgnize a land hit as easily...

but if u work in defense loses u can lose to elite armys at home and ambushs ur always gonna be behind in elites to others.

allowing u to gain elites promotions from the act of attacking just makes so much more sense.

the only other option is increasing the promotion rate which i feel more open to abuse.