Quote Originally Posted by Elldallan View Post
"If it's good for big business it's usually bad for consumers"...
..."So yeah, if it's good for big business it's usually bad for most everybody not part of big business. The oil and chemical industry would love to do away with any environmental legislation there is because it'd be cheaper for them to do business without it.
So Elldallan, you're saying that if a company such as Apple benefits from something, the consumer loses? Lower taxes for the corporation and the price of the iPhone automatically goes up? I'm not sure what college economics class you took, but you can't merely take the oil & gas industry and make a generalization about all corporations or even a majority.

Generally, what's good for a corporation is good for consumers...of that corporation. If Apple comes out with the iPhone 7 and laws regarding corporations are in favor of said corporation, you'll more than likely end up getting a lower price on said phone than if the laws were in opposition to the corporation's interests. If the corporation provided nothing for consumers, no one would consume, they would fail to make money, and could not pad anyone's pockets. Simply by being on this forum, you are likely using a computer that was made by a corporation (at a wholesale price that was marked up by a retailer, most likely linked to another corporation, to a market value that you were willing to pay for said computer, assuming you own it). The internet, without corporations...where would it be today? Still a concept of some guy (Al Gore? LOL) in his mom's basement?

If you choose not to be a consumer, then you're missing out. If you choose not to buy stock in a corporation that's profitable, you're missing out. Don't be mad at someone else's success because you failed to take advantage of an opportunity when it presented itself...you have as much opportunity as the next investor. Corporations are more than just big company names...they are people who had vision to make something bigger than themselves. People probably not unlike yourself at one point who wanted to see something change, or be a part of something larger.

Nothing's perfect. Corporations certainly have the potential to be crooked and scandalous. Just like the government (aka a huge political corporation that has the ability to create and enforce laws, whether or not they are "good" for the consumer).

But since we're talking about lining people's pockets, let's talk about welfare, shall we? We'll give you free cash and stuff, legally and out in the open, just vote for us, and you'll never have to work again.