Proposal to end he Awar

[DM_Benjamin]

anyone who thinks this can be handled though diplo is fooling themselves it will only rear it's ugly head next age again.. just kill it and be done with it.

As the black eyed peas would say "I gotta feeling" things will be a little different in the top next age

[flogger]

You say I have a bad memory, name the last time a top kd had their banks hit multiple times in end of war? Been at it for like 7 years straight now.

[AquaSeaFoam]

I don't know if it was the last time (doubt it) but Emeriti has. Emeriti has been plunder semi waved into post war. We also didn't get any offers of resources or anything else back and they also refused to cf us. I believe Pyro also has been hit in post war? I've heard from a number of others who also have but my memory isn't the greatest either when it comes to such minor things.

[DoOrDie]

You say I have a bad memory, name the last time a top kd had their banks hit multiple times in end of war? Been at it for like 7 years straight now.

When was the last time a top kingdom explored banks into eowcf without having proper CFs in place? And how many times did it happen?

[Palem]

So speaking to kingdoms is all it takes to be allies for you? Interesting, ofc Mansoor added fuel to the fire but you give him too much credit if you think he was the mastermind behind it all. All those kds were pissed off at AMA on their own.

No, but I don't consider BB&Company an alliance either. In terms of these make**** alliances that are formed to combat a single opponent, yes I would absolutely call that 4-some the same kind of alliance. SWEA wanted AMA taken out, urged the other 3 to do it, and they did it fully knowing that it directly benefited SWEA.

Is your real contention that BB has ****played Emeriti?
I would suggest that when you ask someone to raze into another KDs eowcf, you open the door to punishment, i.e. being razed into war and eowcf yourself... or should they have turned the other cheek according to you?

Nope, that's not my contention. I said the problem that started all this wasn't that Emeriti **** played, but that they **** played BB and it wouldn't have been a problem if they had ****played someone else, at least as far as BB is concerned. I was asking you or any other person in BB to confirm/deny this.

[flogger]

When was the last time a top kingdom explored banks into eowcf without having proper CFs in place? And how many times did it happen?

Just last age persian cat did it and we didn't hit him in his end of war, we fought him when he was out and we lost and said gg.

Doordie -how hard is it to show a screenshot of you sending messages to half my kingdom? Go to your sent messages on your phone and scroll back to the beginning of the age and???

[AquaSeaFoam]

Just last age persian cat did it and we didn't hit him in his end of war, we fought him when he was out and we lost and said gg.

Doordie -how hard is it to show a screenshot of you sending messages to half my kingdom? Go to your sent messages on your phone and scroll back to the beginning of the age and???

Why do you keep making things up like first saying 5 people and now claiming half your kingdom? Are you afraid that you flatly denying the truth will make you look bad so instead you exaggerate your own rephrasing of the truth to try and make it seem like the truth didn't live up to your exaggeration?

Also, Emeriti didn't hit you into post war either. They wanted to fight you when you were out. Bour hit you being much smaller and no match for you when you trained up. He offered all land plus extra back immediately for a cf. You could have just agreed right away and still warred Emeriti.

[DoOrDie]

Im just saying bour's pretty much lied about everything so far this age, so I'd be careful hitching your horse to him saying he messaged 5 dudes, if I had to guess he didnt

Just last age persian cat did it and we didn't hit him in his end of war, we fought him when he was out and we lost and said gg.

Doordie -how hard is it to show a screenshot of you sending messages to half my kingdom? Go to your sent messages on your phone and scroll back to the beginning of the age and???

Maybe you should stop saying people lie:

In this screenshot, you can see 5 messages to BB before the razes and 1 message right after:


http://pasteboard.co/1lLcyVkT.jpg

Here are the messsage sent to the monarch and steward:


http://pasteboard.co/1lLhC3wd.jpg

http://pasteboard.co/1lLiqUEO.jpg

Here is the messages I sent to the 3 grunts that were online when I came back from my BBQ (I simply copied/pasted):


http://pasteboard.co/1lLjl1FS.jpg

And finally, here is the message I sent to one of the grunt right after the razes:


http://pasteboard.co/1lLgwOJH.jpg

[Shai]

This age is just another proof that since Absalom disbanded, ghetto ****s and cheaters can roam free and do whatever they want to do without proper policing and punishment

This game died the minute Absalom disbanded.

Either we need to bring the Absalom kds back. Or we need to kill this game permanently

[Swagger]

Ok Shai, bring absalom back. Go!

[Shai]

BTW Bishop, what is Utopia worth these days? What is the price to buy this garbage game? Its a serious question

[Shai]

Ok Shai, bring absalom back. Go!

I wish I could force them all to start playing again, I really do

[Swagger]

BTW Bishop, what is Utopia worth these days? What is the price to buy this garbage game? Its a serious question

Why do you play it if it's garbage?

[Crunch]

Maybe you should stop saying people lie:

In this screenshot, you can see 5 messages to BB before the razes and 1 message right after:


http://pasteboard.co/1lLcyVkT.jpg

Here are the messsage sent to the monarch and steward:


http://pasteboard.co/1lLhC3wd.jpg

http://pasteboard.co/1lLiqUEO.jpg

Here is the messages I sent to the 3 grunts that were online when I came back from my BBQ (I simply copied/pasted):


http://pasteboard.co/1lLjl1FS.jpg

And finally, here is the message I sent to one of the grunt right after the razes:


http://pasteboard.co/1lLgwOJH.jpg

seems to me it was unwise of you and the rest of the abs scum .. look at you now

[StratOcastle]

I can imagine the game isn't as fun for some of you but many of us are having as much fun as ever.

For the sake of new players I think the woes of the top should be kept in perspective. The rest of us might not play to your level but we police ourselves. Even so I've offered to help with policing prior to committing to an age of pure fun. Simply, I'm not built for enforcement this age, but I did ask.

My intuition tells me the dirty talk is common speech in your circles. That's fine. Just try to define the game boundaries for the doe-eyed visitors. Even older players new to the forums might feel like curling up in a fetal position around here.

To any fresh eyes: Utopia is so fun some players take it very seriously. So what you see is passion and not an actual representation of the joy many of us feel. Carry on.