This is incorrect as it is the insinuation PBs left ABS because they had a login site.Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
This is incorrect as it is the insinuation PBs left ABS because they had a login site.
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Abs never had a login site made by Cerb. This is correct. Cerb very well might have made one, and you can ask him who used it. The absalom website was made by cybersmurfen and did not have any login or proxy functionality at all. I don't know for sure what playboys had and I only said what I heard. I don't know if any individual absalom kingdoms had login sites but there were rumours of a couple that used them. Absalom had a policy against them and those rumored to use them were told that if they did they better get off them.
Destiny had 2-3 provinces I believe that used the old munk site due to being traded into the wrong countries. They were never crosslogged and we didn't have that functionality enabled at all.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 23-06-2015 at 01:24.
So the steward that ignored my message was in fact leading BB?
Except that I wasn't 3k, I was 2.5k. I also had 1 1.6k province and 1 2k province. And you guys weren't 2k, you were at 2.2k. That's perfect range to farm the 2 "smalls" and then farm me. That's a lot of pool acres right there.
It was also 22vs25 and ~22k vs ~32k.
Last edited by DoOrDie; 23-06-2015 at 02:11. Reason: Rechecked the accurate sizes of everyone at the time of the razes
Something like that yeah.
Good lord you idiots are still arguing this 2 weeks later? Since when is not responding to a utopia message in a few hours ignoring it? We already posted the motherfin logs where you were instructed to be impatient. Just shut up and go home already. Seriously.
In pretty much every kingdom I've ever played in, the monarch does 99% of the talking, and at no point in my 10 years spent playing this game has 3 hour response times been the norm.
I'm not reachable when we dont want to agree to cf/extension? What a joke, ASF.
In our last 3 ages (which you started being competitive) I can remember almost all the times we dealt, and I was always available. And I was the one able to call the shots and I knew what we wanted and could and couldnt accept. It was always you saying “sounds fine, let me get back to you in a couple hours, maybe 6, while I check with council", and it was always me pinging you back when time was up for a follow-up talk. The kd and diplo was run all by me and CJ back then, a 2 man council essentially and there was no excessive need to check back and forth.
Let me refresh your memory. 2 ages ago in Year 0-1, we agreed to a 48h notice deal after my killer avian tapped your faery once, and you tapped me (the dwarf that went on to be huge) back once, we both agreed to ambush each other's hits and close to a 48h notice deal. Thereafter, like 4 days later we wanted to make a deal longer and more concrete in order to plan our explores better, a duration based one or at least a 72h notice. You were the one dodging and stalling, and we had to resort to sending you a 48h notice right away just to make you talk. Remember that?
The next time we talked was when you were in EOWCF with BB and we had already beaten CR and was preparing for next fight; it was always going to be either you or Shinra. If you extended, we fight Shinra; if not, we fight you. You and I dealt and I was always available and we eventually agreed on a deal that I have never ever made with anyone else before in the game, and not yet till now. It didn't take me too long to finalise a deal as complex and "novel" and I never stalled at any point in time. It was a Y7 CF, with one way option for 2 week extension only exercisable by Emeriti.
Tbh that decision was a risky one for us because nobody was to know what the outcome of the Shinra war would have been and we would have been fked if we didnt win by the margin we hoped to win by. Or we could have put the direction of the crown in our own hands and fight you there and then. Nevertheless we agreed to extend and I was very available for discussion and and that decision gave you the strongest cow in the game albeit only lone cow, and we went on to beat Shinra by 18% land or something. This was something that surpassed our expectations of course, I would not deny. I did not expect them to play as badly.
The second age we dealt, was last age. And you're kidding me if you claim I was unreachable when I was on the front foot. Early age we both lost our wars, but you were in far worse shape. I still agreed to CF extension readily and was always available promptly. I was even open to ideas and actively negotiating and proposing offers that both sides might find beneficial, like deliberately setting CF end dates before our Pew and Simians CFs expired. That, until leshrak decided to ignore me for 7 days in a row.
So tell me now, since when have I been dodging or stalling when I am on the front foot? The only time I have ignored diplo is now, and I have openly stated why, and that's because I have nothing to say to you regarding this issue.
I do not know how your diplo with BB goes, but they have never in my memory been one of stallers in whatever position they may have been, and I say this having fought them for 5 ages and only being more friendly as a KD last and this age.
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Interesting how protector tries to claim that BB ws no threat to you and rounds his 2.2k provinces down to 2k and rounds your 2.8k and 2.5k up to 3k and claims they were completely out of range. Another example of BB's deception while Bour posts the actual facts whether they are good or bad.
Well we were of no threat to him Because we hadn't even looked at his kingdom page until he had razed us.
Nesta, you've been reasonable whenever we've talked, but there are key times when days go by without being able to find you or contact you. Maybe it's not intentional, I don't know for sure. I know you haven't been around to talk to much when you've been doing this gb and I've messaged you and never got replies.
Likewise, 2 ages ago when BB had a weeks worth of gold stocked and Emeriti had none, I contacted them to try asking if they were interested in an extension but was told they were too busy to talk to me but they could talk on saturday (which was like 5 days away and after the notice date.) We just figured "oh well I guess that means they aren't interested" and we warred them. Likewise, this age when Emeriti was offering BB whatever they felt they needed to ensure their situation was completely fixed, flogger and protector both said they were too busy to talk about it anymore. Of course we later learned that they always intended to deal break and gb and so of course they had to avoid fixing the situation.
Yea very factual like how he claims they ignored him cause they didnt respond within a period of 4 hours. :) And was he exactrly 2.8k acres? and where they 2,2k acres? Cause if this is facts, im sure you can provide exact proof of your claims.
Could be, but he had no way of knowing that. What he knew was that you explored up several attackers in perfect range to topfeed farm down his bigs right into your core.
Korp, he is the one saying that they read his messages but didn't reply and so 4h later he razed and messaged again and then offered all land back and extra for a cf. He also admits that 4h wasn't enough time. Still he felt at the time he couldn't keep waiting and thought he could hit to get talks started then give all land and some extra back and have his cf.
I checked on munk. Do or Die was apparently 2549 acres at his biggest according to the site.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 23-06-2015 at 01:54.
Right, the handling on emeriti's part was the greater transgression.
No, the logs clearly show that EMERITI was worried that BB would farm Bour. Then EMERITI says, hey hit into his EOWCF. Then bour says "huh? ok". Then a few EMERITI leadership say, wait, thats not what we want to encourage. However, NONE of the EMERITI leadership then say, "bour, don't do that". NONE of them take a step to stop it. NONE of them take a step to warn or report of it. In other words, if we go back to our basics on inchoate crimes and conspiracy....There was no conspiracy. The #1 province wanted to avoid being farmed by BB. He asked Bb for a cf but they didn't reply after reading his messages. He razed them and then offered to give all land back and extra for a cf. Emeriti advised him that he needed to get a cf before he got farmed and that if they wouldn't cf him he could threaten to raze or raze them while they were weak to force a cf. This is not a conspiracy. If BB would have just cf'd him either initially or after he razed with getting the land and bonus back, they would not have been hurt relative to Emeriti. Since BB refused to cf him and instead trained up to try and farm war him, then Emeriti gained some advantage but this was only due to BB's choice. Due to BB refusing to cf Bour and instead hurting their position, Emeriti offered BB whatever was needed land, gc, cf deal wise to ensure BB was not hurt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Inchoate_offense
We can see that Emeriti is the textbook conspirator and has waived the primary defense available against an inchoate offense.
Yes Virginia, there is a conspiracy. It really does not get more clear than this.
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The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
hmm that's true, my last explore was gonna put me on 2850acres but a nub gave ops to sleepy and got LLed for 300 acres. Raven Mist and Deadlift were also smaller than in my memory, I'll edit my post
#inserts different parties claims that they dont stall diplo talks#
every competitive kingdom/leader has done this before. dont see how it's a useful debating point..
it's like how people do trading of accounts last time. it happens and it's better to just admit it instead of denying it :P
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Age 64: Retired ghetto (Sillies)
Age 65: Retired warring ghetto (Sillies X)
To be continued...
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