Proposal to end he Awar

[flogger]

Mith- I have zero problems admitting that if you hit in my end of war that I'll do whatever is in my power to make you regret it. Gave plenty of opportunities and many days to own up and resolve the situation, and yall figured your best course of action was making fake nicks on the forums. Guess you were wrong.

Absolutely no one cares about getting 1k acres or a few million gc back. We made it entirely clear we wanted to punish someone, we asked for bourreau and you said no. You decided to vouch for him, deal with it.

[Mithras]

Mith- I have zero problems admitting that if you hit in my end of war that I'll do whatever is in my power to make you regret it. Gave plenty of opportunities and many days to own up and resolve the situation, and yall figured your best course of action was making fake nicks on the forums. Guess you were wrong.

Absolutely no one cares about getting 1k acres or a few million gc back. We made it entirely clear we wanted to punish someone, we asked for bourreau and you said no. You decided to vouch for him, deal with it.

Not really. You never gave us a chance to resolve the situation since you never stated what you wanted for the situation to be resolved (other than the obviously unreasonable delete/stop playing we already discussed). When we asked you what you wanted you stalled. The obvious conclusion is that you didn't want it resolved.

[Cheetzy]

Not really. You never gave us a chance to resolve the situation since you never stated what you wanted for the situation to be resolved (other than the obviously unreasonable delete/stop playing we already discussed). When we asked you what you wanted you stalled. The obvious conclusion is that you didn't want it resolved.

Maybe they should of asked for you to tag I surrender. Personally apologise to Flogger for your ****play and the gangbanging of any kingdoms who refused.....Ohhh wait I forgot that's your side who has previous that sort of ****.

Not nice when the shoes on the other foot is it.

[protector]

I'm referring to this
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...-provided-gold

No offense, but with the knowledge of knowing who started that topic, you'd have to be pretty stupid to believe him anyway.
Everyone knows the guy is an idiot.

[Mithras]

Maybe they should of asked for you to tag I surrender. Personally apologise to Flogger for your ****play and the gangbanging of any kingdoms who refused.....Ohhh wait I forgot that's your side who has previous that sort of ****.

Not nice when the shoes on the other foot is it.

No idea what you are refering too. Emeriti has appologized repeatedly and have no reason to tag "we surrender" since we havn't surrendered. We also have not gb:ed anyone; that was flogger/bb/pyro.

We have however, also repeatedly, asked for terms to end this and we have not really got any clear replies other than the deleete/disband/stop playing as already have been mentioned.

[Darkz Azn]

[Darklove]

Mithras nice to see your starting on your shift in the forums so others in your kd can rest some from their fruitless talk.

[protector]

Interesting Flogger. I learned all that sh*t from Anri after he used wordplay to allow him to notice from war while still preventing us from noticing him. He did all that by agreeing on one thing on irc and sending something else in the ingame messege we confirmed. But ofc, I havn't been doing this for long.

Just last age there was a days long discussion ongoing on how the age would end. It was pretty clear Simians felt they deserved (and I pretty much felt the same for em) something for their good sportmanship and performance last age. So instead of us, Beastblood, putting all our resources into taking the province #1 position (we had pool, neither of you did), we agreed to let Simians have it. It was supposed to be part of the deal were Simians gave up some x-thousand acres to Emeriti to secure their win for kingdom land/nw.
The mail Anri received ingame turned out to be different (which he replied to confirm but didnt read), giving you a loophole to go for it. I'm aware dorje didn't want to agree, but it had been on the table the whole time. It was either ours or Simians to take. We agreed to pass it to them.

My impression is pretty clear though. Everyone tries to get the edge somehow, by all means necesary. The only limit is individual players character and moral. You making stuff up to gb when you can't win fair was clearly within your characters and morals. Some set up deals that favor them. Some dealbreak. In the end it all comes down to what kind of game we want and how we want to win.

Your impression seems pretty heavily clouded.
And human cleric vs dwarf sage with the current mechanics who'd fight mid YR1? You seriously think we "can't" win? Anyone with a simple grasping of game mechanics would favor the humans.

[Mithras]

Just last age there was a days long discussion ongoing on how the age would end. It was pretty clear Simians felt they deserved (and I pretty much felt the same for em) something for their good sportmanship and performance last age. So instead of us, Beastblood, putting all our resources into taking the province #1 position (we had pool, neither of you did), we agreed to let Simians have it. It was supposed to be part of the deal were Simians gave up some x-thousand acres to Emeriti to secure their win for kingdom land/nw.
The mail Anri received ingame turned out to be different (which he replied to confirm but didnt read), giving you a loophole to go for it. I'm aware dorje didn't want to agree, but it had been on the table the whole time. It was either ours or Simians to take. We agreed to pass it to them.

Go check the logs, they are crystal clear. The messege sent ingame is identical to what was agreed on irc. Emeriti never agreed to, in any way, to give Simians prov crown. To dictate a deal to someone and not even looking if they agreed or not and then both assume that the deal is in effect and go on to claim they changed it must be some sort of definition of arrogance

[Mithras]

Your impression seems pretty heavily clouded.
And human cleric vs dwarf sage with the current mechanics who'd fight mid YR1? You seriously think we "can't" win? Anyone with a simple grasping of game mechanics would favor the humans.

I said everyone will try to get an edge any way they could and the only limit to that is a persons character and moral. Whether human beats dwarf is completely irrelevant since you chose to dealbreak instead of just beating us fair. If you at that point thought you would beat us fairly and easely as you try to claim now I'm quite amazed you didn't do just that. Would have spared alot of ppl alot of effort. But that was what your morale and your character would allow you to do to get an edge. I would not have done the same.

[SnirpsneR]

I said everyone will try to get an edge any way they could and the only limit to that is a persons character and moral. Whether human beats dwarf is completely irrelevant since you chose to dealbreak instead of just beating us fair. If you at that point thought you would beat us fairly and easely as you try to claim now I'm quite amazed you didn't do just that. Would have spared alot of ppl alot of effort. But that was what your morale and your character would allow you to do to get an edge. I would not have done the same.

Shouldn't have send buro on us.

[protector]

Go check the logs, they are crystal clear. The messege sent ingame is identical to what was agreed on irc. Emeriti never agreed to, in any way, to give Simians prov crown. To dictate a deal to someone and not even looking if they agreed or not and then both assume that the deal is in effect and go on to claim they changed it must be some sort of definition of arrogance

I don't need to read logs, I was present when it was discussed.
We would not race province crown if Simians was getting it. I said this numerous times. It was common knowledge that, seeing as we would explore only a day or 2 later, neither Simians nor Emeriti would be able to pass us. Simians lacked pool and Emeriti was too small. dorje left that part out of the deal he sent ingame and Anri didn't "read" the content and replied to confirm.

[Mithras]

Shouldn't have send buro on us.

Bour is not a dog that sits and high fives on command. Neither is he trained in attacking other ppls opponents on command. He does however tend to attack his own opponents in a game enviroment. When he does so he does not violate agreed CF:s and he actively tries to keeps his fights 1 vs 1.

[Mithras]

I don't need to read logs, I was present when it was discussed.
We would not race province crown if Simians was getting it. I said this numerous times. It was common knowledge that, seeing as we would explore only a day or 2 later, neither Simians nor Emeriti would be able to pass us. Simians lacked pool and Emeriti was too small. dorje left that part out of the deal he sent ingame and Anri didn't "read" the content and replied to confirm.

You do need to read the logs since you are accusing emerit of changing agreed deals and you think that we agreed to give Simians a prov crown. A simple read through the logs will prove that neither actualy happened and we can put a silly discussion to bed.

[Judge]

I don't need to read logs, I was present when it was discussed.
We would not race province crown if Simians was getting it. I said this numerous times. It was common knowledge that, seeing as we would explore only a day or 2 later, neither Simians nor Emeriti would be able to pass us. Simians lacked pool and Emeriti was too small. dorje left that part out of the deal he sent ingame and Anri didn't "read" the content and replied to confirm.

So if we agree to what you say, isent it Anri's fault that he did not read it?