Proposal to end he Awar

[Mithras]

Maybe you should try a different approach seeing your KD is shattered

I don't try to change facts cuz they dont suit me. Thats your game.

[flogger]

The GB was set up from the start. No failed diplo in any way. Nothing we could have given would have been enough for you since you were lying about your motives being a GB and nothing else. All around it is just fluff to keep the crowd off focus.

Well you can believe what you want but I didn't begin diplo with Asf having my mind made up, wouldn't have wasted the time. If bour bit the bullet I probably just get Ya to put our cf first before pyro and we move on.

[Anri]

I don't try to change facts cuz they dont suit me. Thats your game.

I dont cheat and screw others to win, you do.
About time you suffer some damn consequences for it.

[Mithras]

Well you can believe what you want but I didn't begin diplo with Asf having my mind made up, wouldn't have wasted the time. If bour bit the bullet I probably just get Ya to put our cf first before pyro and we move on.

Thanks for confirming

[flogger]

Well I didn't confirm anything but if Ya need to be mad at us rather than just own up then feel free!

[Sheister]

Sheister has spent the last 60 pages explaining how Emeritis offer of compensation did not make up for the damage caused. You seem to be saying its simply about bloodthirsty revenge.

And those two things are not inconsistent. The offer can (and is) be insufficient and the primary motivation can still be revenge,

[Aranfein]

lampost so 2 people cant have different views on events?

I still dont get what it is you wish to say or point out with your post... Sheister points out rather well how it can be connected.

[Maximo]

Well I didn't confirm anything but if Ya need to be mad at us rather than just own up then feel free!

Oh man, he got you flogger!

[AquaSeaFoam]

We made clear what our compensation was and you said no. Deal with your failed diplo instead of blaming others

The compensation you was demanded was that your only competition drop out of competition YR1. That is not compensation. You were offered whatever land, gc, cf timings, or other reparations that were needed to ensure that BB's position was as good or better than it would have been had Bour never razed. You were offered whatever actual compensation BB felt needed to fix their position completely. You were not interested in any deal that let Emeriti have anything close to a fair war against BB. You were also given 2.8x the lost acres back form Bour plus his kingdom agreed to be limited by BB set acre caps which is essentially what BB said they wanted from Bour all along.

You tried to threaten the kingdom ahead of you on the charts who was your only real competition to surrender the age to you YR 1 under implied threats of deal break and gang bang. The kingdom you were trying to blackmail had already apologized to you and offered whatever was needed to ensure BB was not harmed. I'd recommend any kingdom you try such **** play on to not fall victim to such threats of dishonorable play but to instead play fair themselves, offer generous compensation to right any wrongs, and if you are still so desperate as to deal break and gb into a war, then you will only expose yourself for a coward. This is exactly what Emeriti did and what you did.

[Aranfein]

1 thing i dont get is why dont you both pull out and leave it at that, you can both donate me 30k acres each and we call it case closed and i wont send my kd in to whoop you both ;)

[Sheister]

I think we need a proxy war where we each aid a 17 province ghetto to greatness against the other

[AquaSeaFoam]

Had you given up on age there would be no gb.

Gee such a choice. "Give up on the age or we'll break our formal cf deal with you and gb you into your legit war despite you apologizing and offering generous compensation of whatever we felt needed to completely fix our position!"

I'd be completely embarrassed to act so terrified of a lone kingdom and would never stoop to such levels.

[Pale]

You were offered whatever land, gc, cf timings, or other reparations that were needed to ensure that BB's position was as good or better than it would have been had Bour never razed. You were offered whatever actual compensation BB felt needed to fix their position completely. You were not interested in any deal that let Emeriti have anything close to a fair war against BB.

WPA loss, science loss, etc is not fixable. You keep saying the same thing even though it's obviously not true. You can only really offer land and gc but that does not "ensure that BB's position was as good or better. You and bour can't give some things back to us just based on game mechanics alone. Then we find out it was at your suggestion that bour does the aggregious act in the first place. Once you send your friend in to do this, do you really deserve a fair 1v1 war? We would say no, you obviously disagree. You can call us the bad guys, blame us, do whatever you like. You've been doing it already. We didn't suggest to our friend that he hit into eowcf and interrupt our opponents pump. That would be you.

[lampost]

And those two things are not inconsistent. The offer can (and is) be insufficient and the primary motivation can still be revenge,

As for compensation, STOP mentioning it...The damage was done and they had NO intentions of letting you get away with it. The compensation might have been fair had BB not wanted revenge, but they wanted revenge so the compensation is of little value no matter what was offered.

Sheister, They seem to be pretty inconsistent. Aranfein seems to be agreeing that its about revenge, the compensation offered was irrelevant. You're basing the whole GB and Dealbreak on the fact that a fair offer of compensation was not given.

[flogger]

The compensation you was demanded was that your only competition drop out of competition YR1. That is not compensation. You were offered whatever land, gc, cf timings, or other reparations that were needed to ensure that BB's position was as good or better than it would have been had Bour never razed. You were offered whatever actual compensation BB felt needed to fix their position completely. You were not interested in any deal that let Emeriti have anything close to a fair war against BB. You were also given 2.8x the lost acres back form Bour plus his kingdom agreed to be limited by BB set acre caps which is essentially what BB said they wanted from Bour all along.

You tried to threaten the kingdom ahead of you on the charts who was your only real competition to surrender the age to you YR 1 under implied threats of deal break and gang bang. The kingdom you were trying to blackmail had already apologized to you and offered whatever was needed to ensure BB was not harmed. I'd recommend any kingdom you try such **** play on to not fall victim to such threats of dishonorable play but to instead play fair themselves, offer generous compensation to right any wrongs, and if you are still so desperate as to deal break and gb into a war, then you will only expose yourself for a coward. This is exactly what Emeriti did and what you did.

For about the 20th time, me and zauper did diplomacy after I did it with you. Like do you even read what other people write?